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I don't recommend the Paleonu site because I think it's the last word on nutrition. I recommend it because Kurt Harris keeps the level of discussion pretty high, and evidence-based. Arguments against dairy wouldn't be off-limits there.



Todd Moody

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From: Geoffrey Purcell <[log in to unmask]>



Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:55:03 

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Subject: Re: Great blog post about saturated fats





While I tend to agree re the Stefansson comment re not being the only 1 true path(I myself suffered a catastrophic collapse in health on ZC), I somehow doubt that the paleonu website isn't without similiar faults. For example, he praises dairy, stating that people should only avoid it if they have a definite allergy - what about the multitude of people out there who are quite unaware that they have some level of food-intolerance towards dairy(many people, such as myself, have suffered food-intolerance re dairy for years and failed to notice because the symptoms did not appear as immediately as on a full-blown allergy).



 



As for zero-carb claims, it's going to be rather difficult to claim that fruit and veg were never  eaten in more southerly climes given increasing scientific evidence:-



 



http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Xnz0_HSaDLoC&pg=PT176&lpg=PT176&dq=plant+consumption++palaeolithic&source=bl&ots=H76USYMd7_&sig=fD2Nm2Y5BJf8vSx1QePCHgftM1o&hl=en&ei=wBCpSqoxycqMB8LaiekH&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=plant%20consumption%20%20palaeolithic&f=false



 



Middle Palaeolithic:-



 



http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6WH8-4F83PG9-3&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1007265969&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=e000b791ee42d03e4145b0f9f0ac096b



 



There are even a couple of researchers claiming a high-plant diet for the Palaeolithic, which does surprise me a bit:-



http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/119051868/abstract



 



 



Geoff













 

> Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 12:39:23 +0000

> From: [log in to unmask]

> Subject: Re: Great blog post about saturated fats

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> The notion that *only* Stefansson and william and other promoters of all-meat diet are "real" people, with "actual" experiences is not only false, but absurd. While an all-meat diet is certainly an option, the proposition that *only* such a diet supports health is without evidence. The claim that *only* an all-meat diet is paleo is also without evidence. Once again, I have no problem with that approach, but I do have a problem with the cultish insistence that it is the One True Paleo Way. 

> 

> I think some very good information and discussion is taking place at http://paleonu.com

> 

> Todd Moody



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