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> Humph!
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Humph indeed! I tried to join the sheet metal workers local in the 80's 
but they weren't taking women. Ditto for plumbers. One of my women did 
make the plumber's apprentice program on the giant stadium job, but they 
kept her running for parts and cleaning up the mess for 17 weeks and 
then laid her off, along with a bunch of other oddballs (ethnic 
minorities and women or both, usually).  So I just worked for the big 
corporate builders and other small contractors as a sub, half-days. 
(Inside joke, for you all who have never owned a small business, that 
means 12 hours on, 12 hours off, 6 or 7 days a week.)

I salute Chrif's variety of life experience! No wonder you're so wise. I 
used to watch the big freighters at Mackinaw with my Grampa and wonder 
what it was like out there on the boat. Had only "Two Years Before the 
Mast" to go by.

~deb

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