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Well, the learning curve has to be less with WindowEyes.
I already have the demo and, I am working through it.
I should have done this when I left the working world.


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 30, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>    Anthony:
>
> Well, not to prolong this thread, but Jaws 11 is worse than 10, in my
> opinion, especially when it comes to focus issues and newer  
> applications
> that FS doesn't support.
>
> Nevertheless, I am quite torn as well regarding what would be best  
> for a new
> computer.  Whatever I do, there will be a definite learning curve.  I
> suppose I could try Window Eyes, but that certainly won't eliminate  
> the
> necessary evil of  a learning curve.
>
> I am finding out that there is some sort of hybrid computer that you  
> can get
> out there that combines both Windows and Mac features, but I don't  
> know much
> more about it right now.  I don't know if they do that by somehow
> partitioning the hard drive, but I'll let you know if I find out more.
>
> 73 from Tom Behler: KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 1:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mac users list
>
>
>> Hi Tom;
>> I have had it with Jaws also!
>> I am still using Windows XP. Home.
>> I am using a Dell laptop that's.about five years old.
>> And, Jaws has it's focus problems.
>>
>> I think in today's world Windowws is a necessary evil.
>> Taking all this in to considderation, iam torn between a Mac or,
>> WindowEyes.
>> Any ideas?
>> Thanks in advance
>> Anthony
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Dec 30, 2009, at 12:54 PM, Tom Behler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>>   Anthony:
>>>
>>> Now that I think about it, you were the guy who sent me the Mac info
>>> before.
>>> Thanks so much for sending it again, and I'll try not to loose it
>>> this time!
>>> HI!  HI!
>>>
>>> I do not want to belabor this "off topic" thread on the list, but I
>>> will say
>>> that I am having enough trouble with Jaws 11, and am hearing all
>>> sorts of
>>> problems with Jaws 11 and Windows 7, that I am re-thinking the  
>>> idea of
>>> looking more seriously at a Mac for our new home computer.  I can
>>> keep one
>>> or two Windows machines handy for a while, while I try to learn the
>>> ins and
>>> outs of using a Mac with their on-board speech screen reader.  Plus,
>>> the XYL
>>> (who is sighted), seems very interested in the Mac.
>>>
>>> I am simply getting increasingly frustrated with Freedom
>>> Scientific's Jaws
>>> upgrades, and their inability or possibly unwillingness to support
>>> Thunderbird e-mail and some of the other applications I now havbe to
>>> use
>>> with my new job.
>>>
>>> One big stumbling block for me that still exists regarding the Mac  
>>> is
>>> whether my Duxbury Braille translation software, and Juliet Pro 60
>>> embosser
>>> will work with a Mac, and that may actually end up being a deciding
>>> factor
>>> against the Mac, at least for me.
>>>
>>> Will see what happens.
>>>
>>> I want to thank everyone for tolerating this "off topic" post on the
>>> list
>>> here, and I won't carry the thread any further, unless I find out
>>> something
>>> that may benefit others.
>>>
>>> Happy New Year to all, and thanks once again for a great, friendly,
>>> and
>>> informative list!
>>>
>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 4:57 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Off Topic: Mac users list
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Tom & Everyone;
>>>>
>>>> For those who are interested, their is a list of Mac users who are
>>>> blind.
>>>>
>>>> The list is at:
>>>>
>>>> www.mac-visionaries.com
>>>>
>>>> I'm  almost certain that is the correct address.
>>>>
>>>> You might want to Google it.
>>>>
>>>> And, at:
>>>>
>>>> www.blindcooltech.com
>>>>
>>>> their are a whole host of podcasts that will assist you.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of those people are very resourceful.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>
>>>> 73 De Anthony W2AJV
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tom Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 11:18 PM
>>>> Subject: Off Topic: Mac users list
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi, folks.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know this is off topic, so let me acknowledge that right off the
>>>>> bat
>>>>> here,
>>>>> and ask anyone who has the info I'm requesting to reply off list.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few months ago, on this list, someone gave me a link to a blind
>>>>> Mac
>>>>> users
>>>>> group, and some info on some podcasts of comparisons that have
>>>>> been done
>>>>> regarding accessability between Macs and windows-based computers.
>>>>>
>>>>> For some reason, I can't find that info anywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to purchase a new home computer, and, even though I'm  
>>>>> leaning
>>>>> toward
>>>>> continuing with a windows-based machine, the Mac is tempting
>>>>> enough that
>>>>> I
>>>>> want to look at it again seriously one last time before making my
>>>>> final
>>>>> purchase.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, please e-mail me off list at:
>>>>>
>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for taking this "off topic" post.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>>
>>

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