I'd love to personally jump in on this topic but trying to reinvent the 
rehabilitation wheel is something, as a Nobel Peace Prize winner once said, 
is above my pay grade.  Fortunately, I'm not the president of these United 
States but I am the moderator, humbly speaking, of this list.  Whipping a 
dead horse always makes me feel sorry for the horse.  I don't know why, 
since he is dead, but some people find it totally impossible to discuss even 
the basic of topics without inflammatory debating techniques which does 
nothing to prove any valid point they may have.  So, once again, and every 
time this happens, I hear from those who claim they reed this list just for 
what is for sale or trade, so for their benefit, and mine, take it down the 
road.  Now, there's a good name for a new mailing list; Take It Down The 
Road.  Maybe I should add, Jack, to the end of the list name but somebody 
with that name would no doubt think I'm referring to him specifically.  I 
ain't.  I just spent coughing all night, haven't slept but for a couple of 
hours early this morning, pulled my lower back out coughing so hard, so you 
could say I'm not in the best of moods.  You could also say, I'm the list 
moderator and thank you for your support.

Phil.
Moderator who loves blind people.