Vaccination will become mandatory for workers in fields like medicine, law enforcement, etc., where there's a lot of personal contact with a large number of folks--and where it's really important that these folks are well enough to go to work. I just don't see how WHO and the folks that manufacture the vaccine will be able to match the strain and produce enough by the time seasonal flu rolls around again in the northern hemisphere. Lots of folks are going to be watching Australia, New Zealand, South Africa and other developed countries in the southern hemisphere this summer. Conventional thought says these nations will be bellwethers for what's to come this winter in the north.
CDC Public Affairs has been stating that the curremt H1N1 strain has been following the usual seasonal pattern. They're starting to back-pedal from that assessment as it appears this bug is somewhat more virulent than the average seasonal flu--though the symptoms are markedly milder. This virulence is the worrier.
Mags, I had put California in front of (A)H1N1 in my earlier post as it was appearing that the virus was first seen (in North America) in California rather than Mexico. Generally, it's named after the country where it was first isolated (e.g., "Spanish" flu, "Hong Kong" flu, etc.). Political Correctness has reared its head in this arena and WHO is reluctant to label it now due to protestations from Mexico. Some of the more cynical epidemiologists are calling it "NAFTA" flu as it seemed to show up first in the countries signing the North American Free Trade Agreement.
Kyle
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From: Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 12:25:53 PM
Subject: Re: In the "for what it's worth" department?
I don't see how it could be mandatory for adults - for kids, maybe but not
adults. We already have mandatory childhood vaccinations for those kids who
go to public schools.
Kat
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 2:57 PM, ken barber <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> mandatory? i guess that would also go along with mandatory quarantine if it
> really gets bad. kyle?
>
> --- On Sat, 5/16/09, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: In the "for what it's worth" department?
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Saturday, May 16, 2009, 2:23 PM
> > i got an email from this group who
> > said the shots are bad; they are nervous because it will be
> > mandatory for people to get them...i kept thinking to
> > myself; do they not know about Typhoid Mary?
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tamar
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Tamar Mag Raine, Commissioner,
> >
> > Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with Disabilities
> >
> > [log in to unmask]
> > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2009 7:32:48 AM
> > Subject: Re: In the "for what it's worth" department?
> >
> > Not in the near future - any vaccine developed to protect
> > against A/N1H1 is
> > still in the development stage and they need to test it
> > before letting it be
> > used in the general population. The CDC and FDA don't
> > want to make a bad
> > situation worse.
> >
> > Kat
> >
> > 2009/5/16 Kathy Pink <[log in to unmask]>
> >
> > > Kat, I thought they said that there was a vaccine or
> > one coming out. Kathy
> > > Jo
> > >
> > > On 5/15/09, Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > > Mag, there's no vaccine against the H1N1 virus
> > because one isn't ready
> > > for
> > > > production yet. I think Kyle meant
> > And from what I'm reading, it's the
> > > > same virus as the swine flu but the real name is
> > "A/N1H1."
> > > >
> > > > Kat
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Tamar Raine
> > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > kyle i'm not understanding.. is the virus
> > from somebody in calif? or
> > > the A
> > > > > h1n1 is a calif strain?
> > > > >
> > > > > i asked my doc for a shot, he said there
> > isn't one yet, to call in
> > > sept.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Tamar
> > > > >
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > > Tamar Mag Raine, Commissioner,
> > > > >
> > > > > Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with
> > Disabilities
> > > > >
> > > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
> > > > > www.cafepress.com/tamarmag
> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: "Cleveland, Kyle E." <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 5:49:13 AM
> > > > > Subject: In the "for what it's worth"
> > department?
> > > > >
> > > > > There's been confirmation of an
> > A(California)H1N1 flu infection in
> > > > > Scotland, confirming community
> > human-to-human transmission of the virus
> > > > > outside of America. This flips the
> > switch for WHO to declare that we
> > > are in
> > > > > phase 6 (actual pandemia) of a pandemic
> > cycle.
> > > > >
> > > > > I would imagine that world media outlets
> > will be all over this today
> > > like a
> > > > > bum on a baloney sandwich.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kyle
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