When resolving a problem with my HP media center, I dropped in the cpu 
and the cooling fan without any thermal paste.  When I booted, CPU shut 
down in 10 or 15 seconds from overheating.  As Dean said, this was, at  
least at the time, a high performance pc, 3.6 ghz P4 cpu.   I've never 
seen an HP without a case fan though.
Paul Hachmeyer

Dean Kukral wrote:

>Anna, your letter has some disturbing points in it.
>
>First of all, YOU SHOULD NEVER HAVE TO FORCE IN A PROCESSOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Pardon my screaming, but everyone out there needs to know that, because they can destroy an expensive component by using force!
>
>Perhaps you had trouble pushing on the cooling fan?  Older processors slid in like pci cards.  Then, newer ones with pins dropped in 
>gently.  On modern ones, the pins are on the motherboard.  But they should never be forced in or you might damage the processor.
>
>Many computers get by with only one case fan.  It is the high-performance computers that need more.  Particularly if they are used 
>in a warm spot.  Computers can get dirty, however, and overheat with any number of fans.
>
>Jagpal's problem does not seem to be heat-related because the computer is not usually hot at startup time.  Then, when it does 
>start, it runs all day.  Not typical of a heat problem.  Shutting down after it has been running a while IS typical of a heat 
>problem.
>
>Dean
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "g.Computer9f" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 7:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [PCBUILD] computer closes
>
>
>I had the exact same problem with an HP machine last year.  Started shutting down more and more frequently until I could not get it 
>to boot.  I took it to a shop when it finally quit.  HP had not put ONE SINGLE CASE FAN in the machine! and it had literally burned 
>up - blew capacitors.
>
>I will NEVER buy an HP anything again.  I researched and ordered parts, with cooling being primary - got an aluminum case with extra 
>room inside - three 120mm fans.  I put it together myself on the bench of a local shop, which I paid $75 just to be there if I had a 
>problem.  My hands weren't strong enough to push in the processor and I asked a few questions.  Other than that - a cakewalk.
>
>I hope overheating is not your problem, but if  you bought an HP, it is probably toast - literally.
>
>AnnaSummers
>
>
>JST wrote:
>  
>
>>When I start my computer, it suddenly shuts down in the process. Then
>>I try it again couple of time, then it works. I keep it running all
>>the day. Only once or twice it also closed when it was on and i went
>>to take my lunch .that happened only twice in the last month, but
>>problem at the start is almost daily now.
>>
>>Is it power supply or my hard drive coming down or my power conection
>>? something is wrong somewhere, plz advise
>>
>>I m running XP with sp2 installed, Ram is 2 gig, HD is 160 gig, a
>>fairly new machine
>>
>>Jagpal Singh Tiwana
>>Dartmouth, Canada
>>
>>
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>
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>

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