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Louis Kim Kline <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi.

I made the conversion last weekend.  I bought a Zenith converter, and even 
though I thought I wouldn't get much of anything here because the analog 
reception wasn't that great, I actually ended up with five digital 
stations.  The only thing I've noticed with mine is an occasional skip in 
the audio for a fraction of a second, but otherwise, reception seems fairly 
reliable here with no outside antenna.

Makes me wish I had enough roof space to stick up another mast with A 
serious outside antenna to see if I could pick off some of the fringe 
signals.  Especially in a couple of years when Canada does go digital, 
sitting several miles south of the Lake Ontario shoreline, I might see some 
interesting stuff.  As it is, I see a couple of UHF channels from the 
Canadian side just on the indoor UHF loop antenna.

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 05:26 PM 1/17/2009 -0500, you wrote:
>Yeah, they figure the range with antenna will be 30 to 40% down from analog,
>and places like vegas because of the construction of the houses in door
>antennas will never work. I know someone who should get a signal they're
>told but is in a hole, can't get anything but one channel. With all that
>time they should have foreseen that problem, another thing they're finding
>is the equipment at the TV stations can get the cooling clogged in the
>summer with leaves and stuff real fast and it over heats. I'm sure they'll
>fix that but  the easiest fix, I'm told, is to back the power off in the
>summer a little with the original installs. There's a lot they didn't think
>out but the fact is, it's just an effort to line someone's pockets and
>nothing more.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:50 PM
>Subject: Re: SAP channels
>
>
> > Don,
> >
> > It could if they took the time to think things through, but there are so
> > many issues they didn't address.  For example, the new digital format has
> > 8
> > separate audio channels, one of which is meant for description, but nobody
> > has yet told the manufacturers to start making TV sets and cable boxes
> > with
> > those channels implemented.  So, of course, the broadcasters aren't
> > preparing because as they see it, none of the TV sets have that feature
> > anyway, so why bother.  And nobody seems to realize that receiving the
> > digital signals will be more difficult than receiving what we have now, so
> > lots of people won't have any programming at all if they're too far away
> > from the transmitters.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "don bishop" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 15:42
> > Subject: Re: SAP channels
> >
> >
> >> Steve,
> >>
> >> Well, not sure about that.  Who appoints the fcc commissioners and who
> >> pushes for funding.
> >>
> >> I do agree that it's all for the money.  The administration is still
> >> responsible for running all such projects either directly or indirectly.
> >> Sure, congress is involved too and really shouldn't be totally let off
> >> the hook.
> >>
> >> How ever you cut it though, it's a big mess and I really don't see that
> >> postponing digital implementation is really going to improve things at
> >> this late date.
> >>
> >> Don
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:33 PM
> >> Subject: Re: SAP channels
> >>
> >>
> >>> Don,
> >>>
> >>> Much as I love to bash the Shrub, I don't know if we can blame him for
> >>> this
> >>> one.  This tangle has been a long time coming, and I think the problem
> >>> is
> >>> that the bean counters are driving this particular bus.  In other
> >>> words,
> >>> it's all about money, and the one with the biggest bucks wields the
> >>> axe.
> >>>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "don bishop" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 15:21
> >>> Subject: Re: SAP channels
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Harvey,
> >>>>
> >>>> Good point about the switch to digital.  That probably makes my
> >>>> question
> >>>> irrelivant.
> >>>>
> >>>> It does seem as though it's too close now to reverse it.  Just
> >>>> another
> >>>> wonderful process we can thank gw bush for.
> >>>>
> >>>> Don
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>> From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2009 11:51 AM
> >>>> Subject: Re: SAP channels
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Don't I don't know much about satellite providers, but you may have
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> consult Dish network to make certain that Sap capability is included
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> whatever package you purchased.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for myself, I am wondering how we will access the new digital
> >>>>> subcarriers
> >>>>> on cable once digital fully takes effect.  Obama and others are
> >>>>> saying
> >>>>> now
> >>>>> that there should be a delay in the conversion process, but I think
> >>>>> it
> >>>>> is
> >>>>> too far along and too much money has been invested to turn back this
> >>>>> close
> >>>>> to the deadline date.
> >>>>> Harvey
> >>>>>
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Louis Kim Kline
A.R.S. K2LKK
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