well...putting a roof top installation up can be a bit tricky if you've 
never done it...well, not so much tricky, but if it isn't properly done, you 
can have roof leakage issues.  Also one must know the bearring weight limit 
of the roof itself...also, weather one should use a weighted tripod or a 
permanent mount tripod.
If you get a leaky roof from a guy who doesn't quite know what he's doing, 
but willing to try, then you could essentially turn around and sue the 
person or persons who suggested or installed the antenna...that is likely 
what some at your club want to stay away from.
So many will sue at the drop of a hat today, that it makes altruism very 
dangerous and costly.
All I can suggest is that you perchase the roof mount kit, and have a local 
roofer install it for you at an hourly rate...You should be able to get away 
with it for $120 or less since it shouldn't take a professional roofer long 
to either mount the thing or position it and weigh it down.
You can put up the antenna yourself once the tripod is installed....or have 
it all prepared and settup before a roofer gets there and he, or they, can 
just grab it and toss it on the roof...time is money so the less time they 
take the cheaper it is.
you may be able to get help putting the antenna together on the ground if 
necesary.  Also, remember, not all club affiliated hams are familiar with 
installing bass antennas...there are those who stay on 2M and never go else 
where and are mostly familiar with mag mounts and rubber ducks.  They have 
never put up an HF antenna, and likely wouldn't know the first thing about 
doing that.

73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "don bishop" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: adventures of a local radio club


> Richard,
>
> I'm really sorry to hear about your experience with your local radio
> club.  I honestly think that guys aren't quite as willing to help today
> as they once were.
>
> I could suggest some of my theory on this, but it would open up a whole
> can of worms, probably get some people upset, and ultimately really
> accomplish nothing anyway.
>
> I will say though that I recently heard an officer of a local radio club
> around here complaining that when the program started during the
> meeting, a lot of the people went outside and just shot the breeze
> rather than staying in the meeting and possibly learning something.
>
> I don't know where you're located, but if you have a ham radio store in
> the area, you might try giving them a call and see if they could
> recommend someone to help you out.
>
> I don't really do any climbing anymore for various reasons, and it
> really can be a job finding people to help with antennas, especially
> people who know what they're doing.
>
> Hope you can find assistance.
>
> Don w6smb
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:09 AM
> Subject: adventures of a local radio club
>
>
>> Hello;
>> I have to share a bit of this and perhaps vent a little.  Feel free to
>> =
>> hit delete.  I have been chatting with my local radio club that meets
>> =
>> within walking distance for nine months of the year.  They came over =
>> last fall looked my happy home over opened an antenna box and rummaged
>> a =
>> bit and said they would be in touch.  At the time we had the "best =
>> antennas go up in winter" chat.  Come winter we decided it was to cold
>> =
>> and they opted to wait till spring.  Now that it hit 80 here for a day
>> I =
>> talked with the president a bit last meeting.  I got a call from one
>> of =
>> the officers the other day on my voice mail.  I made the mistake of =
>> getting a bit excited and ready to get going.  I called this trusty =
>> officer back and discovered he primarily wanted to put me in touch
>> with =
>> arrl to get the local power authority to move my neighbors power
>> lines.  =
>> I had decided long ago that I was reluctant to get into that battle.
>> I =
>> was also told that if the vertical I am considering is on the roof of
>> my =
>> one story house the power lines are no longer an issue.  The original
>> =
>> intent was a ground mount.
>> The bottom line was that I was informed that if I am planning on
>> putting =
>> the antenna on the roof of this single story home I should have it =
>> professionally installed.  The obvious next question was where do I
>> find =
>> these professional installers and he had no idea.
>> If some of you have the good fortune to have some eager willing to
>> help =
>> local hams, take time to show them your appreciation.
>> Richard
>>
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