Could be, nonetheless I don't think we are held responsible. Nope no
seedless grapes in the Bible.
Brad
At 06:29 AM 3/13/2008, you wrote:
>Brad,
>
>Even if the bird eats the grape this time, a small seed may be blown in
>the wond to land and sprout somewhere else, don't you think? Or is it that
>there are only seedless grapes in the Scriptures? Not meant to be
>irreverente. Forgive my poor spelling. When I don't know something, I
>automatically go to the Spanish!
>
>purple
>
>
>At 10:49 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>>I think there is discernment in such, and first off to follow the Holy
>>Spirit's leading. Sometimes talking with people full on pushes them
>>away, but nurturing the ripening grape is best, it isn't our blame if the
>>bird eats the grape before it falls in the hand of the harvester. Of
>>course we don't want that and want to do what we can to avoid it, but it
>>isn't oru decision to make for them. Could be your friend is called ot
>>talk to this person and maybe you not.
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>
>>At 09:20 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>>>Yes......my thoughts exactly. There is a person with whom my friend and
>>>I used to go to church, it seems he is involved in the gay life style
>>>now....my friend feels we should go and try to talk to him....I don't
>>>feel that way. This man is married, and I sent him an email tryng to
>>>encourage him to work out the issues in his marriage....I said I wasn't
>>>writing to condemn him....or judge him.....I was a member of the crowd
>>>who couldn't throw the first stone....but I felt marriages were a
>>>forever thing....and we should do all we can to save them........my
>>>friend says what if something should happen to this man and we would
>>>have wished we would have goen to him. He isn't listening to his wife
>>>of 23 years....don't really feel he'd listen to me....besides I don't
>>>feel comfortable going to talk to him. I said to my friend the very
>>>best thing we can do is pray.......
>>>Thanks for your thoughts
>>>Rhonda
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 11:12 PM
>>>Subject: Re: is this true?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Rhonda,
>>>>
>>>>Personally I see it this way. God gave us a gift of freedom to choose.
>>>>He told us from the beginning choose life or choose death, blessing or
>>>>cursing. If he, himself, gave everyone that choice, I don't think he
>>>>holds us to a higher level of responsibility for others than he does
>>>>himself. Does he blame Christ for those who refused him? Those who
>>>>mocked and cursed him? We are told to spread the good news but also to
>>>>live quiet godly lives. It is amazing to me when folks become
>>>>Christians they feel they now have to be SuperChrists and suddenly
>>>>responsible for the world's salvation... I once was as a youngin' in
>>>>the Lord. I believe we are held accountible for "our" actions and
>>>>beliefs, but not that of others, but that is just my personal thought.
>>>>
>>>>Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 04:31 PM 3/12/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>Not sure....if that is the one or not!! it just goes back to what
>>>>>are we responsible to God for? What does it mean to be our brother's keeper?
>>>>>Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>Rhonda
>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 8:24 AM
>>>>>Subject: Re: is this true?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Not sure if this is what she is referring to...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Matt 11:19-23
>>>>>>The Unrepenting Cities
>>>>>>20 Then He began to denounce the cities in which most of His miracles
>>>>>>were done, because they did not repent.
>>>>>>21 "Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the miracles
>>>>>>had occurred in Tyre and Sidon which occurred in you, they would have
>>>>>>repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
>>>>>>22 "Nevertheless I say to you, it will be more tolerable for Tyre and
>>>>>>Sidon in the day of judgment than for you.
>>>>>>23 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You
>>>>>>will descend to Hades; for if the miracles had occurred in Sodom
>>>>>>which occurred in you, it would have remained to this day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perhaps she can find the passage being this is her belief? Not for
>>>>>>your sake necesarily in and of itself, but her own. That is to say
>>>>>>that its best to lay foundational beliefs on biblical references we
>>>>>>know rather than "I think it says somewhere in the bible that..."
>>>>>>plus in these little searches we gain knowledge and gems along the way :).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Brad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>>Brad Dunse
>>>>
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>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Brad Dunse
>>
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