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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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i sure would. you can give me a head start by sending your scripture references so i can read ahead. 


--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Another scary call
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 10:48 PM
> I did a sermon about it. I let Aaron (my conmunication
> device) speak it.  Would you like me to get the sermon to
> you?
> 
> ---- Original message ----
> >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 16:43:15 -0800
> >From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>  
> >Subject: Re: Another scary call  
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >i did not know there was a rule against any group
> becoming or not becoming a majority micheal. could you site
> that rule. 
> >
> >i will say it was actually bad for christianity when
> contintine made it the official religion of the empire. i
> think that is what our admendment to the constiturion was
> about not estabishing a official religion. but there has
> never been anything that says this or that group should not 
> or should be the majority. 
> >
> >however you are right no one is to dominate anyone
> else, but again no one should be someone elses door mat
> either. 
> >
> >
> >--- On Thu, 11/6/08, Michael H. Collis
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> From: Michael H. Collis <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Subject: Re: Another scary call
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 4:14 PM
> >> I know I give Ken the "Heebie Jeebies when I
> talk like
> >> this, :) but Christians were never supposed to be
> the
> >> majority, neither were they supposed to be rulers.
> 
> >> Christianity changed from a minority to a majority
> when
> >> Emperor Constantine "converted" in the
> fourth
> >> century C.E.  That one event made it okay for
> Christians to
> >> be dominators, not the dominatees, and we've
> been
> >> dominating people, places, and things ever since,
> sometimes
> >> to great benefit, and other times to great
> detriment.  In
> >> the U.S. we Christians tend to want to legislate
> morality,
> >> and forget about those who are less fortunate. 
> God wants us
> >> to be concerned about others, not from a
> conversion, but as
> >> a human being in need.  We can hope they see
> something in us
> >> that they want, and ask about it.  But to try to
> manipulate
> >> people into the kingdom is a big no-no, to me.
> >> 
> >> ---- Original message ----
> >> >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:34:56 -0500
> >> >From: "Michael H. Collis"
> >> <[log in to unmask]>  
> >> >Subject: Re: Another scary call  
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >
> >> >Anthony, 
> >> >
> >> >I don't know what to say about your Aunt. 
> I'm
> >> sorry she feels that way about me.  I see Jesus as
> being
> >> liberal, so revolutionary, in fact, thet the
> conservative
> >> religious status quo had no choice bu to order the
> situation
> >> to kill him.   (more later>..)
> >> >
> >> >---- Original message ----
> >> >>Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2008 23:32:01 -0600
> >> >>From: Anthony Arnold
> >> <[log in to unmask]>  
> >> >>Subject: Another scary call  
> >> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >>
> >> >>Friends, 
> >> >>
> >> >>My father received another scary call from
> my aunt,
> >> today she said that she
> >> >>feels sorry for all Americans who voted
> for Obama.
> >> He respects her opinion,
> >> >>but it scares him, she was so open to
> anything
> >> before reading those blogs.
> >> >>But they're very religious so I wonder
> if that
> >> got into play. And I feel
> >> >>they haven't experienced life like
> most have,
> >> my uncle always has had a job
> >> >>and I feel they aren't hurting. 
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks,
> >> >>Anthony Arnold
> >> >>Prentke Romich Company
> >> >>1-800-262-1984 ext. 494
> >> >>www.anthonyarnold.net
> >> >>Proud Member of Speak Share
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