it is cheaper to treat junkies than to do this war on drugs thing too.
--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Cleveland, Kyle E. <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> From: Cleveland, Kyle E. <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Okay, now that the election is over...
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 3:30 PM
> I agree, darnit! We lost the "War on Drugs", too,
> and look where that
> got us. Legalize it all, price goes down, fewer people get
> shot.
> You'll still have the same number of junkies to deal
> with, but a junkie
> with access to cheap dope is a lot safer than a junkie with
> no dope at
> all.
>
> Johnson's "War on Poverty" failed because
> there's no pride in a handout.
> Roosevelt at least put idle hands to work--and believe me,
> people wanted
> to work. I think people would want to work now...if they
> had the
> opportunity. Maybe Obama's on to something with his
> Civilian Defense
> Force:
>
> This is from "Defense News" published July 7th--I
> got it here on my
> desk:
>
> "We cannot continue to rely only on our military in
> order to achieve the
> national security objectives that we've set. We've
> got to have a
> civilian national security force that's just as
> powerful, just as
> strong, just as well-funded," he said.
>
> "I believe we can reconfigure our civilian
> national-security force. We
> still have a national security apparatus on the civilian
> side, in the
> way the State Department is structured and USAID, that
> harkens back to
> the Cold War," Obama said.
>
> "We need to be able to deploy teams that combine
> agricultural
> specialists and engineers and linguists and cultural
> specialists who are
> prepared to go into some of the most dangerous areas
> alongside our
> military," he said.
>
> He's talking about Compulsory National Service for
> post-high school kids
> to do "Peace Corps" work here at home. I can get
> behind that! However,
> I would like to know what he means by a "civilian
> national security
> force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as
> well-funded", as
> our military. That's troubling and gives me the
> "brown-shirt" willies.
> I hope he elaborates on that one.
>
> Kyle
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of ken barber
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 2:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Okay, now that the election is over...
>
> but if you mean like "the great society" or the
> "war on poverty" the
> answer would be "no"
> by the way we have lost the war on poverty big time.
> poverety has won.
> what was the exit stategy, we need to get out. we have
> spent over 7
> trillion on it and we still have the poor.
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Cleveland, Kyle E.
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > From: Cleveland, Kyle E.
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Okay, now that the election is over...
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 1:32 PM
> > Oh, I don't know...Reagan's ending of the Cold
> War
> > comes to mind. Bush
> > Sr.'s signing ADA legislation into law worked for
> me.
> > Eisenhower's
> > Interstate Road System seemed like a good idea. Nixon
> > opened China's
> > economy to the west (not sure how positive that is in
> > retrospect, but we
> > got a few less nukes pointed at us out of the deal).
> >
> > Who knows, maybe Obama will be another FDR. Another
> WPA
> > could rebuild
> > our crumbling 60+ year-old infrastructure.
> >
> > Economically, one of the issues that we face that no
> one
> > wants to admit
> > is that we ARE at war. And as such, our economy needs
> to
> > be placed onto
> > a wartime footing. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan
> sound
> > expensive--and they are. But they're actually
> being
> > fought on the
> > cheap. That's why it's taking us so long to
> > achieve our strategic
> > goals. Tactically, we're fine. Strategically,
> > we're not; and I place
> > the blame for that solely at the feet of Don Rumsfeld.
>
> > Want someone to
> > blame for the morass in the sandbox? He's your
> man.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > Of Michael H. Collis
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:40 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Okay, now that the election is over...
> >
> > I have a question: Looking back over the history of
> this
> > country, are
> > there many positive initiatives started by people we
> would
> > consider to
> > be conservative today?
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