1. J. U. Lloyd is from Cincinnati. There is a botanical library here that he founded. His book was the most boring SF story I ever tried to read, far as I can tell, but the pictures are good.

2. I have some expertise about outhouses, since some of my first poems were published in The John House News (including 'Feed The Maggots').

So maybe I am qualified to join the group.

Larry 2


---- Gabriel Orgrease <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
> > Ping your it.
> >   
> Leland,
> 
> Great. Encourage me.
> 
> Once upon a time there was a listserv for historic preservation called 
> Preservation-L. It had no rules, it was thought up by a computer geek in 
> his lab, and he had no interest in historic preservation. It was there 
> like a fish attractant at the bottom of a stagnant pool and in a short 
> period of time a whole bunch of people that identified themselves as in 
> the historic preservation business signed up for the list. But they did 
> not know quite what to do with it. So there were 600 people connected 
> but not communicating.
> 
> I got some bright idea and using my mother's e-mail address (for which I 
> had to apologize and make amends later) I sent to the list an e-mail 
> about Gabriel and Etidorpha Ogrease (for those in the know about novels 
> pertaining to cave utopias reference the novel *Etidorpha* by John Uri 
> Lloyd) -- their father Buck had brought back a fiberglas portable toilet 
> from a 1970s War Moratorium in DC that he suspected the hole in the side 
> was kicked there by Alan Ginsberg and Peter Orlovsky... and they wanted 
> to get some professional advice on how properly, best to make repairs 
> without losing the heritage significance. That request for advice got 
> some folks excited, some agitated. So for a while there I took to 
> writing a new installment once a week. It was not long before I was 
> getting all sorts of really angry back channel threats from what I can 
> only assume in retrospect were the blue-blood wannabees, Bastards of the 
> Revolution, or whatever but it was an incredibly negative aura. Also a 
> good deal of support and people jumping in with their own characters -- 
> and animals. Eventually the collection of outhouses grew to cover 40 
> acres and set off SOS... Save Our Shitters. So, thoroughly pummeled by 
> the unpleasantries and while resting up from a heart operation I 
> solicited a new place to start a new list. Those G & E weekly 
> installments I think went on for about two years before I gave up on it  
> -- where can you go after eating Etidorpha's squirrel brain tarts? 
> Eventually I took as my writer's pseudonym the Gabriel Orgrease brand 
> name. But along in there we got us a list sponsored by St. John's 
> University psychology department. I will never know for sure if we were 
> considered a specimen for close observation, or not. It has been 
> interesting. We have rules, as opposed to the list with no rules.
> 
> One rule is not to get on anyone's case if they can't spell or make a 
> coherent sentence.
> 
> Another rule, often not followed, is to include some histo presto 
> content in every message. Though I suspect that simply posting a message 
> on a listserv can be construed as archaic enuf to qualify.
> 
> For a time we used to raid the Preservation-L list just to see if they 
> could still be agitated. It is kind of funny to me that nobody ever says 
> anything on that list, least ways not that I know of.
> 
> There is a good deal of irrelevant horsing around, often poor 
> signal:noise ratio, but what I have learned is that the games, jokes, 
> stories, play provides a context by which when real questions are asked 
> the veracity of the information can be well gaged.
> 
> Beside all that people that survive to hang, linger, emote, or otherwise 
> not suffer from terminal attrition here tend to like each other, here 
> and in RL.
> 
> COD keeps us running. Sharpshooter keeps shooting at us. Py gets lost in 
> Argentina chased down by flying rocks and UFOs. Sometimes we hear from 
> Bullamanka. And Rudy has a time machine. Ruth is keeper of the screw 
> drivers. Ralph is the Humor Czar. Larry (1) is associated with the 
> Political Graveyard but sometimes we get confused and think he is from 
> Toledo. Twy is the VI. I've lost track of most all of the nuances... but 
> I am sure in a leaftime I will be brought up to the holy crapper.
> 
> ][< (shaman)
> 
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