I don't know. Here in Ontario people have enough decentcy to respect a net
going on. Sometimes you might have some interference but usually people are
well behaved on two meters. Maybe they're afraid of having the machines shut
off. That's annoying when that happens. Although I haven't really seen too
much of that to recollect.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
I don't notice it daily or anything but I'm seeing a lot more people who
just jump in and call other people with out seeing if the frequency's in use
or not, I've had 2 instances over the summer where I was NCS and someone
jumped in and called someone and when advised there was a net going on, once
was ignored and was told the other time "I know" and the ignored until,
since it was a RACES net, one community really gave him an ear full while I
was still thinking over what I could say to let them know how I felt, but
not get myself in trouble. Once more it happened with someone in an NTS net.
I've also heard about 5 or 6 other instances of that in the last year or 2.
A lot of it, not mine, but a lot of it was echolink repeaters with people on
echolink and one common NCS around the area will actually drop everything
and let them do what they want. I refuse to run a net on a repeater with it
after it happened to me a couple years ago, now I tell them if they want me
as NCS they can shut off echolink, which one net does, or look for someone
else. I have been made aware also, one of the people I had problems with on
the RACES net is frequently on echolink which leads me to wonder if that's
how things are generally done there which wouldn't shock me. I don't need
that aggravation, someone wants to play games on HF, I can ignore them, but
on FM on VHF, it's not that easy. I have no tolerance for that stuff what so
ever. Many are probably very lucky I didn't have time to finish the OO test.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Kwan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>I think you have a lot of good points in your last message but what has
> happened on VHF. you make it sound like there's trouble on that band. I
> notice some every now and then but you speak of it as though it's
> noticeable.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>
>
> There won't be a "radio" part of it to use if we keep demonstrating
> echolink
> to potential hams and new hams. I used to have a simplex link up for a
> while
> until I heard some new ham saying he wasn't going to ever bother upgrading
> his license because he liked echolink better since he didn't have to worry
> about band conditions and the person he was talking to agreed with him. I
> pulled the plug on it right after that idiotic statement was made, and
> when
> I thought about it, I realized just how bad it really is and I'm so
> ashamed
> of myself for ever putting that link up. I kick myself daily for
> contributing to that kind of thought process and general stupidity. Why
> even
> get a license in the first place if you want to talk all over the world on
> the computer? Oh well, no one will ever change my thought process on that.
> It's a very lazy day and age we live in today and that unfortunately is in
> general. As soon as I find something else to do I like, or if things get
> much worse on ham radio and it gets more to be ham computer, I'll probably
> get out of it 100%. Many I know have done it due to that and the dropping
> of
> CW, I'm not as hot about the CW topic but I feel my years in ham radio are
> probably numbered. Hopefully I can find a partner for my UHF repeater
> project so I don't have to find a home for that when that day comes that I
> do pull out, or I might just move it to GMRS. Anyway, no one will ever
> change my thought process on this, I think the hobby is going away fast as
> real radio and it kills me to see it. Hopefully when the HF bands get good
> things will change, I'll wait for that but if not, I won't be around for
> the
> next one.
> It's funny though, everyone thought there would be problems on the HF
> bands
> with CW being dropped, I'm seeing a lot more problems on VHF than anywhere
> and if it wasn't for the NTS and ARES/RACES involvement, what very little
> time I'm on VHF now would be 0.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John J. Jacques" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>
>
>> Hi all, I believe that echo link is a great way to marry amateur radio
>> and the internet. I enjoy accessing my echo link node via UHF simplex
>> but I can appreciate the ability to connect with just a PC, unlike IRLP.
>> For example, last year, I was able to park my echo link node on the local
>> club repeater, while I was in Michigan, allowing me to check into the net
>> that I usually run, with my laptop! Though I love all of the older forms
>> of communication such as A M phone, I think we need to use the new
>> technology that is available or soon, there won't be an amateur radio
>> service left to use!
>>
>> 73 and 88 to the YL's:
>> John
>>
>> John Jacques
>> Amateur Radio Station: KG7FA
>> "Where Cat Is, Is Civilization!"
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