John,

Why did you want to hold it back?  It's not illegal to run 165 watts on 75 
meters.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 08:06
Subject: Re: Most Memorable Experiences


> With my TS-520, which I sold to a local ham just before getting my TS-830
> which I like better, I had to really hold the thing back on 75 meters, it
> wanted to put 165 watts out. I had to work like hell to hold it back to 
> 140,
> any lower I had to really detune it and I was always concerned about that.
> Luckily the current owner is pretty much on 20 and 40 where it is a lot
> safer at around 110 watts. I won't know why it wanted to put out such high
> power on 75 so bad though, it was a huge struggle to keep it down too, 
> you'd
> be surprised.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shaun Oliver" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 12:32 AM
> Subject: Re: Most Memorable Experiences
>
>
>>I won't tell you then I use to squeeze 150 watts out of my old 520 then
>> will I? hi hi.
>>
>> it was indeed fun back then. but, having said that, I remember working
>> europe on barely 20 watts out the back of an old cybernet radio.
>> admitedly it was out of band as well, but, there it was. 20 watts was
>> barely slightly louder modulation compared to 12 watts but it was fun to
>> work europe on bugger all power.
>>
>>
>> Shaun,
>> vk2fese,
>>
>>
>> "Cry 'havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war"
>>
>>
>> web sites:
>> http://www.myspace.com/blindmanshaunoliver
>> http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
>> skype: brailledude
>>
>>
>> On 24/12/2008 2:29 PM, we were able to ascertain that Colin McDonald
>> pondered upon these thoughts, and proclaimed thus.:
>>> operating out of band?  CB, oh dear dear.  Did i hear too much power, or
>>> was
>>> it just never     quite enough hi hi.
>>> 27.425, 435 and 445 lower side was where i used to talk to the ausies 
>>> all
>>> the time from north western canada.
>>> swing the beam a bit west of south and null out the idiots from the 
>>> lower
>>> 48
>>> and lard thunderen G, the boys down under would come rolling in like a
>>> big
>>> surf.
>>> and i only ever ran 12 watts...
>>> but here we are, all respectable ham operators now, we can't remmoniss
>>> about
>>> the old days when we had a bit more lee way and didn't care as much 
>>> about
>>> regulations...not to mention a bit more fun...the absolute lack of
>>> intelligence from the lower 48 operaters was nothing short of pure
>>> amusement
>>> and entertainment on a daily basis...kind of like an adult version of 
>>> the
>>> simpsons or southpark on crack.
>>> the challenge was breaking a pile up of music, noise makers and cursing
>>> and
>>> swearing, rather then 100 nearly as stupid ham operators spitting out
>>> their
>>> calls wanting to talk to some dx contact for 2 seconds to put it in a 
>>> log
>>> to
>>> claim they talked to so and so in here or there.
>>> For amateur radio, the rag chewwing is fun, the experimentation with
>>> equipment and antennas is fun, and the occasional rare dx contact 
>>> without
>>> a
>>> pile up can be interesting...but the rest is just dribble and no better
>>> then
>>> the cb stuff when the dx is rolling good.
>>> I have made hundreds of very good clean personable contacts on 11 metres
>>> in
>>> the past with people in some pretty rare places.
>>> Yeh it's not specifically up to par with regulations, but neither is
>>> driving
>>> 70 in a 65 zone, or parking in a no parking zone, or adjusting ones 
>>> taxes
>>> just a little bit to get a break, or not declaring cash payments for 
>>> work
>>> done...those aren't ok either, but lots of good law abiding people do
>>> that
>>> and it doesn't make them losers.
>>> Ham radio has more then it's fare share of IO's (idiot operators) too,
>>> and
>>> not all of them have come up from the "cb" ranks with their bad manners.
>>> It's all radio and it's all fun if you don't mind the attitudes....which
>>> personally i have no problem with because it's not serious but
>>> entertainment.
>>> It's like going to see a commedian, your not going to sit there and
>>> analyze
>>> each word and say how terrible he is for saying what he's saying.  Your
>>> going to laugh at what's funny and boo him if he sucks...
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Colin, V A6BKX
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Shaun Oliver" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 4:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Most Memorable Experiences
>>>
>>>
>>>> that's how I started pretty much, a friend told me how to use one
>>>> shortwave radio as a BFO for another, so I did.
>>>> I got into cb for a while, did all the naughty things like work out of
>>>> band etc, ran amateur radio equipment on 27 mhz, all the naughty stuff.
>>>> then this year after procrastinating for the better part of 20 years, I
>>>> finally went and got my license.
>>>>
>>>> Shaun,
>>>> vk2fese,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Cry 'havoc!' and let slip the dogs of war"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> web sites:
>>>> http://www.myspace.com/blindmanshaunoliver
>>>> http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
>>>> skype: brailledude
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 24/12/2008 10:02 AM, we were able to ascertain that Bill Deatherage
>>>> pondered upon these thoughts, and proclaimed thus.:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> That brought back memories.  I first learned about short wave radio
>>>>> from
>>>>> a
>>>>> student at The Kentucky School for the Blind.  I was there in the late
>>>>> 1960's and early 1970's.  After talking to my parents about it my
>>>>> mother
>>>>> bought me one of those radios that had a m and f m and short wave on
>>>>> it.
>>>>> That is where I first heard about ham radio.  They had some classes 
>>>>> for
>>>>> Novice license when I was living in louisville that was for KSB
>>>>> students
>>>>> and
>>>>> people who lived there could participate in the class.  I went to a 
>>>>> few
>>>>> classes but never stuck with it.  What sparked my interest at that 
>>>>> time
>>>>> the
>>>>> director of the Rehab center where i was a student who's name is Fred
>>>>> Gissoni talked to me about amateur radio and the licenses and what you
>>>>> had
>>>>> to do to get your license.  He is blind and is a general class
>>>>> opperator.
>>>>> well, later in my life i got a radio with the same bands but this 
>>>>> radio
>>>>> had
>>>>> local police and air frequency bands on it.  part of this covered the
>>>>> 146
>>>>> meg band so I started listening to hams on 2 meters.  and I finally
>>>>> studied
>>>>> long enough to get my technission class license.  At that time the 
>>>>> only
>>>>> difference between technission and general was the code so I finally
>>>>> got
>>>>> my
>>>>> code spead up to 13 words a minut and now I am a general.
>>>>> but like you it all started with listening to short wave.
>>>>> Bill Deatherage
>>>>>
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