They do for the most part around here but when it's a band I don't get all
that in to anymore, and I never had a problem until the last year or year
and a half, it gets to me when it starts up all of a sudden like that. I'd
never do that and most wouldn't but there are a very few out there that do
ruin it for others.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Kwan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>I don't know. Here in Ontario people have enough decentcy to respect a net
> going on. Sometimes you might have some interference but usually people
> are
> well behaved on two meters. Maybe they're afraid of having the machines
> shut
> off. That's annoying when that happens. Although I haven't really seen too
> much of that to recollect.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 11:40 AM
> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>
>
> I don't notice it daily or anything but I'm seeing a lot more people who
> just jump in and call other people with out seeing if the frequency's in
> use
> or not, I've had 2 instances over the summer where I was NCS and someone
> jumped in and called someone and when advised there was a net going on,
> once
> was ignored and was told the other time "I know" and the ignored until,
> since it was a RACES net, one community really gave him an ear full while
> I
> was still thinking over what I could say to let them know how I felt, but
> not get myself in trouble. Once more it happened with someone in an NTS
> net.
> I've also heard about 5 or 6 other instances of that in the last year or
> 2.
> A lot of it, not mine, but a lot of it was echolink repeaters with people
> on
> echolink and one common NCS around the area will actually drop everything
> and let them do what they want. I refuse to run a net on a repeater with
> it
> after it happened to me a couple years ago, now I tell them if they want
> me
> as NCS they can shut off echolink, which one net does, or look for someone
> else. I have been made aware also, one of the people I had problems with
> on
> the RACES net is frequently on echolink which leads me to wonder if that's
> how things are generally done there which wouldn't shock me. I don't need
> that aggravation, someone wants to play games on HF, I can ignore them,
> but
> on FM on VHF, it's not that easy. I have no tolerance for that stuff what
> so
> ever. Many are probably very lucky I didn't have time to finish the OO
> test.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kevin Kwan" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>
>
>>I think you have a lot of good points in your last message but what has
>> happened on VHF. you make it sound like there's trouble on that band. I
>> notice some every now and then but you speak of it as though it's
>> noticeable.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>>
>>
>> There won't be a "radio" part of it to use if we keep demonstrating
>> echolink
>> to potential hams and new hams. I used to have a simplex link up for a
>> while
>> until I heard some new ham saying he wasn't going to ever bother
>> upgrading
>> his license because he liked echolink better since he didn't have to
>> worry
>> about band conditions and the person he was talking to agreed with him. I
>> pulled the plug on it right after that idiotic statement was made, and
>> when
>> I thought about it, I realized just how bad it really is and I'm so
>> ashamed
>> of myself for ever putting that link up. I kick myself daily for
>> contributing to that kind of thought process and general stupidity. Why
>> even
>> get a license in the first place if you want to talk all over the world
>> on
>> the computer? Oh well, no one will ever change my thought process on
>> that.
>> It's a very lazy day and age we live in today and that unfortunately is
>> in
>> general. As soon as I find something else to do I like, or if things get
>> much worse on ham radio and it gets more to be ham computer, I'll
>> probably
>> get out of it 100%. Many I know have done it due to that and the dropping
>> of
>> CW, I'm not as hot about the CW topic but I feel my years in ham radio
>> are
>> probably numbered. Hopefully I can find a partner for my UHF repeater
>> project so I don't have to find a home for that when that day comes that
>> I
>> do pull out, or I might just move it to GMRS. Anyway, no one will ever
>> change my thought process on this, I think the hobby is going away fast
>> as
>> real radio and it kills me to see it. Hopefully when the HF bands get
>> good
>> things will change, I'll wait for that but if not, I won't be around for
>> the
>> next one.
>> It's funny though, everyone thought there would be problems on the HF
>> bands
>> with CW being dropped, I'm seeing a lot more problems on VHF than
>> anywhere
>> and if it wasn't for the NTS and ARES/RACES involvement, what very little
>> time I'm on VHF now would be 0.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John J. Jacques" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>>
>>
>>> Hi all, I believe that echo link is a great way to marry amateur radio
>>> and the internet. I enjoy accessing my echo link node via UHF simplex
>>> but I can appreciate the ability to connect with just a PC, unlike IRLP.
>>> For example, last year, I was able to park my echo link node on the
>>> local
>>> club repeater, while I was in Michigan, allowing me to check into the
>>> net
>>> that I usually run, with my laptop! Though I love all of the older
>>> forms
>>> of communication such as A M phone, I think we need to use the new
>>> technology that is available or soon, there won't be an amateur radio
>>> service left to use!
>>>
>>> 73 and 88 to the YL's:
>>> John
>>>
>>> John Jacques
>>> Amateur Radio Station: KG7FA
>>> "Where Cat Is, Is Civilization!"
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