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well i am happy that i am not in that position. 


--- On Wed, 4/30/08, Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: S.2433 global tax on americans to give to other countries
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 6:54 PM
> I doubt very much that bush 2 wrote that speech. I really
> doubt he truly unerstands poverty and the related issues. 
> I recently read an excerpt from a book by Lee Iacoca, that
> really says all the things I have thought about bush2.  for
> instance, bush never reads a newspaper, he gets his news
> from fox news while he is in the gym! I don't read the
> paper, but then I am not the leader of the country and I
> don't have to make decisions affecting the millions of
> americans or other countries. 
> 
>  
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> Tamar Mag Raine
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> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Kendall D. Corbett <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:25:56 PM
> Subject: Re: S.2433 global tax on americans to give to
> other countries
> 
> Here's a link to the bill as introduced in the Senate,
> which lists
> cosponsors and legislative history:
> 
> http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:2:./temp/~c110NXPmS0
> 
> Under findings, the bill some rather startling facts about
> worldwide
> poverty, and how that poverty may lead to increased acts of
> terrorism.
> Finding 5 is a statement by President Bush:
> 
> 
>    (5) On March 22, 2002, President George W. Bush stated:
> `We fight
>    against poverty because hope is an answer to terror. We
> fight against
>    poverty because opportunity is a fundamental right to
> human dignity. We
>    fight against poverty because faith requires it and
> conscience demands it.
>    We fight against poverty with a growing conviction that
> major progress is
>    within our reach.'.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    As I read the bill, as Peter said, a dedicated tax is
> not proposed.  I
>    haven't taken the time to go into the GAO report on
> the bill, but I'd bet
>    that the folks at Fox are getting budget projections
> from somewhere, seeing
>    that therre isn't enough money in the budget to
> cover those projected costs,
>    and assuming that a tax of the magnitude you mention
> would be necessary to
>    fund the program.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    As I read the bill, it's intended to support UN
> action to alleviate
>    world wide poverty, and as such, the US would not be
> solely responsible for
>    the costs of the program.
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:32 PM, ken barber
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > it begs a question of why WOULD YOU PLAN FOR SOMETHING
> THAT YOU DO NOT
> > INTEND TO EXECTE. .
> > opps sorry about the caps.
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/30/08, Peter Hunsberger
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Peter Hunsberger
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Subject: Re: S.2433 global tax on americans to
> give to other countries
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 2:30 PM
> >  > Thing is, the bill doesn't propose a tax (or
> even much
> > > in the way of
> > > real spending); that's just some commentators
> take on
> > > the supposed
> > > implications of the  bill.  Guess it makes for
> better
> > > headlines....
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 1:22 PM, ken barber
> > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > we actually do help others quite a bit with
> out
> > > putting a dedicated tax for the purpose.
> > > >
> > > >  sarcasm noted.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >  --- On Wed, 4/30/08, Peter Hunsberger
> > > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >  > From: Peter Hunsberger
> > > <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >  > Subject: Re: S.2433 global tax on
> americans to
> > > give to other countries
> > > >  > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >  > Date: Wednesday, April 30, 2008, 2:15
> PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > [sarcasm alert/]
> > > >  >
> > > >  > Wouldn't want to help the poor
> countries;
> > > they might
> > > >  > just start
> > > >  > purchasing goods manufactured in the
> US. Far
> > > better to
> > > >  > continue
> > > >  > spending that money on ways to to kill
> and
> > > control people
> > > >  > instead.
> > > >  >
> > > >  > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 12:39 PM, ken
> barber
> > > >  > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >  > > senate bill s-2433 introduced by
> obama will
> > > impose a
> > > >  > 845 billion dollar tax on americans to
> give to
> > > "poor
> > > >  > countries."
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >  just for your info and it will
> be voted on
> > > any day
> > > >  > now.
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >
> > > >  > >
> > > >  >
> > >
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> An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
> 
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> Therefore, all progress
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