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oh, you have a book? did you tell us and i just missed
it? 

--- Peter Hunsberger <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> On Dec 5, 2007 12:45 PM, Michael H. Collis
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > I was wondering if Peter, Ken, Kyle, or Kendall
> had a comment on it.  It is talking about how
> gradual global warming may bring about abrupt
> climate change by changing the thermocline
> circulation in the oceans,   The northern
> hemisphere, especially Europe and the northeastern
> part of North America, would be hit hard by never
> ending blizzards. and the southern part of North
> America would be hit by 5 or 6 category 5
> hurricanes.
> >
> >
>
http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=12455&tid=282&cid=9986
> >
> > Comments, anyone?
> >
> 
> As Deri points out the article is a bit dated.
> However, given that
> it's mostly long term speculation I don't see any
> reason to consider
> it for anything than that. Scientists do seem to
> agree that the
> affects of ocean heating are poorly understood and
> that they are just
> beginning to take off (they have a large lag behind
> surface temps).
> I've used the term "inflection point" here before
> and that's the basic
> premise behind some of the speculation; that there
> is a point of no
> return after which the regular rules don't apply any
> more. Most
> scientists don't seem to think that will happen in
> quite as of
> dramatic fashion as portrayed here (and in the
> movies!); however there
> may be years in which the extreme effects show up. 
> June snow storms
> in Britain seem to be part of the regular worst case
> scenarios...  The
> point that seems to be overlooked in the article,
> and in my book the
> important thing to remember here, is that, if
> mankind continues to
> dump green house gases into the atmosphere then the
> overall average
> temperature of the earth will continue to rise. So
> even if you get
> localized cooling from fluctuating ocean currents it
> seems unlikely
> that it will be to a geographically large enough
> extent to reverse
> large scale ice melts and increase surface albedo
> (and thus reduce any
> significant amount of global warming), although as
> the article points
> out it may mitigate the effects for certain 
> regions.
> 
> -- 
> Peter Hunsberger
> 
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