You are correct. I misspoke. As these are pricey I think we will wait
on them however. I do like the Barrenger products. I have a conference
room and I would like to have a 5 or six channel gated system for
choosing the microphone closest to the speaker at any given time but
that one has not make it through the budget yet. Later.
Thank you!
Brett Winchester KD7JN
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-----Original Message-----
From: For blind ham radio operators
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 12:03 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Microphone question
phase shifters aren't what you need.
Phase shifting won't get rid of feedback in a PA necesarily, unless the
feedback is at one very narrow frequency.
You can get feedback destroyers from Behringer for about the cost of a
couple microphones.
The Shark 110 is a decent single line automatic feedback suppresser.
There is also the behringer 1124 rack unit which has auto feedback
suppressing functions. Basically the unit detects the frequencies at
which the mikes are feeding back and uses very tight notch filtering to
get rid of the anoying feedback. It can eliminate multiple frequencies
if necesary. It can also learn and auto detect which means if you have
someone moving around in the near field of the speakers it will get rid
of feedback as it appears and then take out the notch filter when there
is no longer feedback. The notch filtering allows the over all tonal
quality to remain the same as if there were no filtering taking place.
Most sound techs just utilize a 30 band EQ and use LED's to detect
feedback and drop that particular frequency down until the feedback goes
away. This is tedious and can effect the tonal quality of the sound
quite a bit compared with notch filters.
The shark also has gaiting and compression built in....very useful for
unattended microphones that sometimes get a mind of their own and start
howling for no apparent reason. The gaiting will keep them quiet until
something loud enough gets them going.
73
Colin, V A6BKX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brett Winches" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: Microphone question
> I just bought 4 SUM for use at our church and indeed they are great
> units. We run them through an EQ on the mix board and the idea was to
> have as close to identical units thereby reducing the knob twiddle
> effect for various board ops. We also have three Senheiser but I do
not
> know the model numbers there. I used one in a PA last weekend and am
> impressed but we sure need some phase shifters to decrease feedback in
> that situation. Hard on the ears!
>
> =20
>
>
> =20
>
> Thank you!
> Brett Winchester KD7JN
> [log in to unmask]
> ICBVI -- Reading Services
> P O BOX 83720
> 341 W WASHINGTON STREET=20
>
> BOISE IDAHO 83720-0012
> 208-334-3220-104
> 208-639-8386 DID
> 208-334-2963 fax
>
>
> =20
>
> =20
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: For blind ham radio operators
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Colin McDonald
> Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 3:16 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Microphone question
>
> any studio mike will sound pretty decent on SSB.
> Most studio mikes, even the cheap ones will give you an audio
frequency
> range of at least 50HZ to 16KHZ.
> Since your typical 2.7K maximum band width on ssb will be quite a bit
> narrower then that, you can be sure that the mike will give a good
flat
> response within the bandwidth that the radio puts out.
> Audio technica, V-tech, AKG, CAD, Nady, shure, among several others
all
> sell quality studio mikes for around 30 to 60 bucks.
> If you want a really high quality mike for vocal audio, the shure
> beta-58 is about the best on the market right now under $500.
> It's around the same price as the Heil Gold line, in the $150 to $199
> range.
> The idea is to have as flat a response out of the microphone as
> possible, and then contour the response with a graphic Equalizer.
> Some of the cheaper mikes will have bumps at 1K or 2K to increase
> intelegability on a PA, but the better ones will be flat.
> I use a shure sm 158 from time to time on the ts2000 straight in and
get
> good results.
>
> Look around for an old style desk lamp that has a double action boom
on
> it.
> They often have a shelf clamp on one end, and you can modify the other
> end to hold a mike clip.
> You should be able to locate a goose neck with a clamp on one end for
> studio control room or DJ use.
> Sometimes you have to get a few different parts and build the thing to
> suit your needs.
>
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 5:09 PM
> Subject: Microphone question
>
>
> > Hi all, I'm sure someone in here has to be using a broadcast mic, or
> heil
> > gold line, mic, either with their ham radio station, or for music,
or
> maybe
> > broadcast radio. I just picked one up, that MC-60 really got on my
> nerves,
> I
> > could not get it like I wanted with out bypassing the base
completely,
> so
> > W2IHY suggested a professional mic that's very inexpensive and
sounds
> great.
> > Looks like it's a lot more expensive than it is too, I mean, I paid
> $30
> > including shipping for the thing and the audio reports are
incredible.
> > Reviews on www.eham.net are as well. Anyway, I'm looking for a
decent,
> not
> > too expensive boom mount. Something I can clamp to my desk and it
will
> put
> > the mic right in front of me. I've looked and I'm not sure what's
what
> but
> > this little desk stand I have really stinks and I'd like something
> that I
> > can bring in front of me a little closer when I sit back and relax
in
> my
> > chair. Does anyone know of anything like that I might look in to?
I'm
> sure
> > there is such a thing but I've never looked before and some things
> sound
> > close but I'm not sure and can't spend money to find out it's not
even
> close
> > as it sounds. Thanks.
> > John Miller N1UMJ
> > AIM and yahoo messenger: N1UMJ Skype: n1umjjohn
> > home page:
> > http://home.comcast.net/~n1umj/wsb/html/view.cgi-home.html-.html
> > myspace: http://www.myspace.com/n1umj
> >
> >
> >
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