Okay. Ken, how about this? If a male transgendered himself into a female, then got married to a male, would that be okay? that's what happened to an online jewish friend. he met the person he ended up marrying while the person was still male, A year later the transgender process was complete and they got married. Then there are the hermaphrodites. Granted, they make up a very small percentage of the population, but they have both genders. what are we to do with those people?
---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:12:52 -0700
>From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: actually linda is right
>To: [log in to unmask]
>
>you would not remove the guard rails that are at the
>cliff edges at the grand canyon because of what is
>likely to happen.
>
>you don't ignore the slippery slope that is there
>because it is prudent to look at what is likely to
>happen.
>
>nothing to do with morals; everything to do with good
>common sense.
>
>--- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> You know the one thing I learned while I was
>> teaching in that
>> Christian private school - is those people are very
>> sincere in their
>> beliefs - and no I never mentioned I am Pagan nor
>> argued with one thing
>> said. As I said I learned they honestly and
>> sincerely believe what they
>> believe. And so it is everyone - so why would anyone
>> think they would
>> bring you around to their way of thinking - we can
>> never change anyone's
>> mind - they have see beyond the horizon of their
>> boundaries - a
>> uncomfortable play to be.
>>
>> I have no problem with gay marriages - if polygamy
>> were a voluntary
>> state - not a brainwasher slave state - I could
>> perhaps see it but for
>> the most part since we have no positive role models
>> here - it's hard to
>> make a judgement on it. I can see jealousy being a
>> major factor in it
>> not being successful. I really don't think anyone
>> backs pedifiles. Of
>> course you do have some laws for young marriages. I
>> think the thing is
>> view each item on its own merits and not lump them
>> together because it
>> might lead down a slippery slope - blanket
>> com=ndemning things - could
>> be seen as going down a slippery slope also.
>>
>> Oooops got to run..... Trisha
>> (who is taking her
>> Mom shopping)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Cerebral Palsy List
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of ken barber
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:36 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: actually linda is right
>>
>> actually linda is right on the fact that i do not
>> post
>> much of controversy direct to the list as much as i
>> once did. i am following the advice that i give my
>> son
>> "choose your fights well and be sure they are worth
>> the efford you are going to have to put in them." i
>> post many things to about 3 or 4 people who for the
>> most part do not agreee with my opinions, but that i
>>
>> know are not going to attack me for having my
>> opinions.
>> the last time i posted on an issue like this one,
>> it
>> was entwined in with a discussion of not only
>> polygamy
>> but gay rights and other alternative lifestyles.
>> when
>> i said "many adults wanted sex with children" i was
>> accused of "hate speech." after that post i got
>> quite
>> a load of off list email(from the tolerate liberals
>> on
>> the list) and if you want to know hate speech you
>> should have been able to read a few of those. that
>> lead me to post my "i will not be intimidated" by
>> this
>> tactic email.
>> now, since the subject is out here, these people
>> are
>> Pedophiles. they are like a nest of vermin. you
>> attack
>> them in one place and they just move to another and
>> produce anotherr nest.
>> linda's opinion that officials at the mormon
>> church
>> publicly critisize polygamay while giving it a wink
>> and a nod my indeed be true. i can neither confirm
>> nor disprove it. i know that the mormons that i
>> personally know do not like it. the law enforcement
>> and politicos from arizona and utah might could
>> have
>> given texas a "heads up" if they knew these people
>> were in texas. every state has their own law
>> enforcement.
>> like i said these are Pedophiles. this bunch
>> hides
>> behind "religion."
>> when you talk of pedophiles though, you have to
>> go
>> after them all. you also talk of the judges who turn
>> these convicted beast loose back on the streets (and
>> back on our kids) with little or no years in jail.
>> you
>> talk of the states where a few politicos block
>> passage
>> of some version of jessica's law in their state. off
>> the top of my head i think off Mass. WHERE ONE
>> DEMOCRAT POLITICIAN HAS BLOCK A VOTE IN THE
>> LEGISLATURE FOR 2 YEARS.
>> you can't just get after the dirty old men who want
>> young girls, you have to think of older women who
>> want
>> young boys. i think of one in forida who was "too
>> pretty to go to jail."
>> there are men who want young boys and women who want
>> young girls. they are all pedophiles.
>> now i will reap the opinion that got so much heat.
>> when you start redefining marriage as something
>> different that one woman married to one man to
>> accommodate one alternate lifestyle, you are going
>> to
>> have another group go before some pinhead judge and
>> asking "ratify me too." where does it stop once you
>> are on the slippery slope?
>> if you think this is hate speech and want to email
>> me; DON'T BOTHER.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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