I don't notice it daily or anything but I'm seeing a lot more people who
just jump in and call other people with out seeing if the frequency's in use
or not, I've had 2 instances over the summer where I was NCS and someone
jumped in and called someone and when advised there was a net going on, once
was ignored and was told the other time "I know" and the ignored until,
since it was a RACES net, one community really gave him an ear full while I
was still thinking over what I could say to let them know how I felt, but
not get myself in trouble. Once more it happened with someone in an NTS net.
I've also heard about 5 or 6 other instances of that in the last year or 2.
A lot of it, not mine, but a lot of it was echolink repeaters with people on
echolink and one common NCS around the area will actually drop everything
and let them do what they want. I refuse to run a net on a repeater with it
after it happened to me a couple years ago, now I tell them if they want me
as NCS they can shut off echolink, which one net does, or look for someone
else. I have been made aware also, one of the people I had problems with on
the RACES net is frequently on echolink which leads me to wonder if that's
how things are generally done there which wouldn't shock me. I don't need
that aggravation, someone wants to play games on HF, I can ignore them, but
on FM on VHF, it's not that easy. I have no tolerance for that stuff what so
ever. Many are probably very lucky I didn't have time to finish the OO test.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Kwan" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>I think you have a lot of good points in your last message but what has
> happened on VHF. you make it sound like there's trouble on that band. I
> notice some every now and then but you speak of it as though it's
> noticeable.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 11:06 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>
>
> There won't be a "radio" part of it to use if we keep demonstrating
> echolink
> to potential hams and new hams. I used to have a simplex link up for a
> while
> until I heard some new ham saying he wasn't going to ever bother upgrading
> his license because he liked echolink better since he didn't have to worry
> about band conditions and the person he was talking to agreed with him. I
> pulled the plug on it right after that idiotic statement was made, and
> when
> I thought about it, I realized just how bad it really is and I'm so
> ashamed
> of myself for ever putting that link up. I kick myself daily for
> contributing to that kind of thought process and general stupidity. Why
> even
> get a license in the first place if you want to talk all over the world on
> the computer? Oh well, no one will ever change my thought process on that.
> It's a very lazy day and age we live in today and that unfortunately is in
> general. As soon as I find something else to do I like, or if things get
> much worse on ham radio and it gets more to be ham computer, I'll probably
> get out of it 100%. Many I know have done it due to that and the dropping
> of
> CW, I'm not as hot about the CW topic but I feel my years in ham radio are
> probably numbered. Hopefully I can find a partner for my UHF repeater
> project so I don't have to find a home for that when that day comes that I
> do pull out, or I might just move it to GMRS. Anyway, no one will ever
> change my thought process on this, I think the hobby is going away fast as
> real radio and it kills me to see it. Hopefully when the HF bands get good
> things will change, I'll wait for that but if not, I won't be around for
> the
> next one.
> It's funny though, everyone thought there would be problems on the HF
> bands
> with CW being dropped, I'm seeing a lot more problems on VHF than anywhere
> and if it wasn't for the NTS and ARES/RACES involvement, what very little
> time I'm on VHF now would be 0.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John J. Jacques" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2008 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Echo Link WasRE: Introduction
>
>
>> Hi all, I believe that echo link is a great way to marry amateur radio
>> and the internet. I enjoy accessing my echo link node via UHF simplex
>> but I can appreciate the ability to connect with just a PC, unlike IRLP.
>> For example, last year, I was able to park my echo link node on the local
>> club repeater, while I was in Michigan, allowing me to check into the net
>> that I usually run, with my laptop! Though I love all of the older forms
>> of communication such as A M phone, I think we need to use the new
>> technology that is available or soon, there won't be an amateur radio
>> service left to use!
>>
>> 73 and 88 to the YL's:
>> John
>>
>> John Jacques
>> Amateur Radio Station: KG7FA
>> "Where Cat Is, Is Civilization!"
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