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"Michael H. Collis" <[log in to unmask]>
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I'm here, too, and I agree with Mag and Kendall.  I don't suffer with CP; CP is a condition I've lived with all my life and I'm comfortable with it.  I have no pain except when I fall in my Bounder powerchair going 12 mph. (lol)

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>Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 11:42:43 -0800
>From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>  
>Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [C-PALSY] Hi  
>To: [log in to unmask]
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>I'm here, and I agree with Kendall.  While I don't suffer from CP, I do have to contend with the long term effects of my body moving in ways that nature did not intend.  Your use of the word suffering, was off-putting, and that is why I did not respond. When people used to say "special child" I would feel like gagging. In the States, that term often refers to a child with mental retardation, or I guess the R word has fallen out of favor too, because it has such negative connotaions. So, we now say Cognitive Disabilities.  Also, we use; Children with disabilities, people with disabilities. rather than "CP Child".......
> 
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>Got to go now!
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>http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
>Tamar Mag Raine
>[log in to unmask]
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>________________________________
>From: Kendall D. Corbett <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 11:28:54 AM
>Subject: Fwd: Re: [C-PALSY] Hi
>
>---------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: Kendall D. Corbett <[log in to unmask]>
>Date: Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 3:42 PM
>Subject: Re: Re: [C-PALSY] Hi
>To: Harbinder Parhar <[log in to unmask]>
>
>
>Harbinder,
>
>To those of us in the "states," Oakville Ontario isn't even that well
>known...  By research, I guess I meant that you are using the list to
>increase your personal knowledge base rather than having a first hand
>(personal) experience with CP.
>
>I don't see myself as "suffering with CP."  That implies a disease model I'm
>uncomfortable with.  To me, CP is a condition that I've had my entire life
>that causes some limitations, but is only a part of who I am.  There are
>several aspects of what make you Harbinder as well, things like being
>Canadian or living in Canada, being a student, etc.  Knowing so little about
>you, I'm hesitant to provide more information.  Is the special education
>assistant's program a certificate, or an associates degree?
>
>The use of the "special children " terminology to describe students with
>disabilities also makes me uncomfortable.
>
>I work for a University in the states, and our "special education" program
>is only available to graduate studernts.
>
>I know that the list is in the "winter doldrums," but isn't anyone else out
>there?!?
>
>  On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Harbinder Parhar <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>>  Hello Kendall,
>>
>> Thank you for writing back so soon.  Sheridan is a well known collage in
>> Oakvill, Ontario Canada.  I am enrolled in Special Education Assistant's
>> program.  My request to become a member of your group is to learn more about
>> people suffering with CP and their issues.  The more I learn about the
>> issues the better educated I would be to teach our special children next
>> year.  I am not involved in any kind of reserach.  My purpose is simply
>> learn more.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Harbinder
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
>> *To:* Harbinder Parhar <[log in to unmask]>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 3, 2009 2:19:49 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Re: [C-PALSY] Hi
>>
>> Harbinder
>>
>> One of the things the "List" steers clear of in most cases, is being used
>> for "research" purposes. If you haven't been contacted off-list by one of
>> the list moderators, I'm pretty sure you will be. They'll let you know the
>> parameters that your interests can be addressed through on the list. As an
>> international list composed primarily of adults with CP, our experiences are
>> likely quite different than those you might encounter in the teaching field
>> today. Is Sheridan a university, a college, or a different kind of
>> educational institution? Where is it located? My wife and I do disability
>> awareness/etiquette presentations frequently, so we can give some general
>> pointers that are pretty much applicable to people with disabilities of any
>> age, but I'm a bit leery of sharing my "family/daily life" with someone I
>> know so little about.
>>
>> On Feb 3, 2009 11:08am, Harbinder Parhar <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > I am a student at Sheridan's Educational Assistant pro
>> >
>> >
>> > Hello everyone,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am a student at Sheridan's Educational Assistant program.  I very much
>> interested in learning about the family/ daily life of our friends suffering
>> from CP.  I want to enchance my experince about this disability that will
>> help me teach children affected by it at school next year.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Harbinder
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message ----
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Tamar Raine [log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> >
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 4:36:46 PM
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: Hi
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am 53 in march, (as if one month matters!) I have CP, and later today
>> I'll tell the latest story of some of the issues in the city of Oakland.
>> (grin)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Tamar
>> >
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>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>> > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
>> >
>> >
>> > Tamar Mag Raine
>> >
>> >
>> > [log in to unmask]
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>> >
>> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>> > ________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Kendall D. Corbett [log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> >
>> > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >
>> >
>> > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 11:54:19 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > Subject: Re: Hi
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>> > Harbinder,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > One of the ways to spark conversation is to tell us a little about
>> yourself
>> >
>> >
>> > and what your intererst us in CP; from there, we can generate discussion.
>> If
>> >
>> >
>> > you did a more extensive intro, I missed it.  I'm Kendall, 48 with CP and
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > other conditions, and am married to Janet, who's also 48 with CP.
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> > Kendall
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
>> >
>> >
>> > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > depends on the unreasonable man.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
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>> > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Tamar Raine [log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> >
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>> > > Mag
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>> > > But if you have a question, please do ask, and we will reply!
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>> > > Mag
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>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >
>> >
>> > > http://www.zazzle.com/TamarMag*
>> >
>> >
>> > > Tamar Mag Raine
>> >
>> >
>> > > [log in to unmask]
>> >
>> >
>> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> >
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>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > > ________________________________
>> >
>> >
>> > > From: Kathleen Salkin [log in to unmask]>
>> >
>> >
>> > > To: [log in to unmask]
>> >
>> >
>> > > Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 6:45:37 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > > Subject: Re: Hi
>> >
>> >
>> > >
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>> > > The list is pretty quiet right now - I call it the "Winter Doldrums."
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > > Kat
>> >
>> >
>> > > List Mum
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>> > > On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Harbinder Parhar [log in to unmask]
>> >
>> >
>> > > >wrote:
>> >
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>> > >
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>> > > > My name is H. Parhar and  I am much interested in learning mo
>> >
>> >
>> > > > Hello,
>> >
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
>> > > > My name is H. Parhar and  I am much interested in learning more about
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > > > cerebral palsy.  I have signed up for this mailing list but have not
>> >
>> >
>> > > > recieved any mails.
>> >
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
>> > > > Just wanted to know how frequently members communicate.
>> >
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> >
>> > > > Thank you,

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