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EXCELLENT! Some of my comments may have made it to the bottom of this 
message. It aappears that they didn't, so ...

It is obvious that this guy has never been in the throes of a 
full-blown panic attack! We liked what you had to say, Phil, because 
it made sense out of the nonsense. Worthless peace of writing, and 
freakin' dumb at that!! This is just more secularized 
pseudo-Christianity, the touchy-feely stuff, and is simply more 
garbage to put at the top of the pile. Reminds us of the twelve-step 
programs and the whole pseudo-recovery movement. Why do you think 
more don't make it? Well, we think we have an idea. Anyone care to 
start a bonfire? We do!

GOD BLESS EACH ONE OF YOU THIS DAY,

Purple Skweeks and Purple Skweeky.


At 01:05 PM 2/24/2008, Phil Scovell said:

> > I spent a little more time developing my comments on this article and
> > thought I would post it again so I could try and make you even madder than
> > the first time.
> >
> > Followup Commentary On The Dumbest Article I've Ever Read.
> >
> >
> > By Phil Scovell
> >
> >
> > Subject: LIMITING ANXIOUS FEEL[*]     [ ]             Phil 
> Scovell" , The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask] 01:31 PM 
> 2/25/2008      Re: Fw: Update On Limiting Anxious Feelings
>[S]     [ ]             Phil Scovell    01:30 PM 2/25/2008      Re: 
>Update On Limiting Anxious FeelingsINGS.
> >
> >      The Author said, When I'm facing such situations, I try to
> > follow  the six steps  described below to limit  my anxious
> > feelings.
> >
> >      First, state the problem. A problem well stated is half
> > solved. In  anxious states of mind, people can't see the forest
> > for the trees.  Put the problem in perspective. Will it matter for
> > eternity? The  danger at this juncture is to seek ungodly counsel.
> > The world is  glutted with magicians and sorcerers who  will
> > promise incredible results. Their appearance may be striking.
> > Their personality may be charming. But they are bankrupt of
> > character. Avoid them. (Psalm 1:1).
> >
> > Step Number One Comments.
> >
> >      What if you don't know the identity of the problem or what is
> > even causing  it in the first place?  What if you are lost in the
> > middle of an endless  ocean of mixed emotions instead a forest of
> > trees as he suggests?  If a tree falls in the forest and you
> > aren't there to hear it, does it make a noise?  I hope he isn't
> > suggesting we confess the problem rather than Jesus as the Solver
> > of all problems.
> >
> >      He said, Second, separate the facts from the assumptions.
> > Since we don't  know what's going to happen tomorrow, we make
> > assumptions, and we usually assume the worst.  If the assumption
> > is accepted as truth, it will drive your mind to its anxiety
> > limits. Therefore, you must separate assumptions from facts.
> >
> > Step Number Two Comments.
> >
> >      What if you don't know the facts about what you face and you
> > are unawares of  how to determine the facts?  Does this mean your
> > mind has therefore been stretched to the outer limits of anxiety
> > and so you now must be mentally ill?
> >
> >      He said, Third, determine what you have the right or ability
> > to control.  You are responsible for that which you can control,
> > and you are not responsible for that which you can't. Don't try to
> > cast your responsibility onto Christ; He will throw it back.
> >
> > Step Number Three Comments.
> >
> >      Meanie Jesus.  Tossing back what you cannot bear?  This ain't
> > no Heavenly ball game we are playing; it's life.  Control?  How
> > can you  control uncontrollable circumstances that slam into you
> > without warning?  How about the sudden death of a loved one for
> > example?  Did he ever think of that?  How about a loved one who
> > has cancer and has been given six months to live?  What if you get
> > a call in the middle of the night and your son, who was on his way
> > to visit his sister in Wichita, was changing a flat tire and was
> > struck and instantly killed by a passing vehicle?  What if you are
> > 12 years old and just found out you have no father, to speak of,
> > and the one who is your real father is living the rest of his life
> > in the state prison?  What if you can't control even your own
> > thoughts?  This guy obviously has never had that experience or he
> > wouldn't say such a stupid thing.  Where is Jesus when you need
> > Him the most?  This guy certainly doesn't know.
> >
> >      He said, Fourth, list everything you can do which is related
> > to the  situation that is under your responsibility. When people
> > don't assume their  responsibility, they turn to temporary cures
> > for their anxiety, like eating, TV, sex or drugs.
> >
> > Step Number Four Comments.
> >
> >      What he means is, you aren't worth spit as far as God is
> > concerned because  you won't take responsibility for your own
> > problems.  In short, God doesn't  care if you are trapped by the
> > anxiety that you should be able to handle on  your own in the
> > first damn place.  Besides, he left out eating chocolate and TV
> > dinners.
> >
> >      He said, Fifth, once you are sure you have fulfilled your
> > responsibility, see if there is any way you can help others.
> > Turning your attention away from your  own self-absorption and
> > onto helping people around you is not only the loving thing to do,
> > but it also brings a special inner  peace.
> >
> > Step Number Five Comments.
> >
> >      This is the old standard come back, everybody else is worse
> > off than you.  So run right out into the traffic, find a freaking
> > volunteer job, help  others, and it will make you feel so much
> > better, you'll forget all about  your fears and anxieties which
> > God isn't interested in helping you with in  the first place,
> > dummy.
> >
> >      Finally, he said, Sixth, the rest is God's responsibility,
> > except for  your prayer, according to Philippians 4:6-8. So assume
> > your responsibility, but cast your anxiety on Christ.
> >
> > Step Number Six Comments.
> >
> >      The rest is up to who?  You just were told in five, and
> > possibly six, steps,  how to manage your own freaking anxiety
> > problems without God's help at all.  Why  would you now even think
> > to pray if you don't need God to help you in the  first place.
> > Where did Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Bible go in these  six
> > steps in the first place?  I'm just glad he didn't have 10 steps,
> > or 47 steps, or 685 steps.  Maybe that's the holy version and this
> > is just the practical, and secular, 6 steps version.
> >
> > This has been a slightly cynical response to one of the dumbest
> > Christian  advice articles I have read in years.  By the way, in
> > my 50 years plus walk with the Lord, I have tried every single one
> > of these things many times and they don't freaking work so get a
> > life and stop showing everybody how little you know about anxiety
> > of any kind.
> >
> > Phil, Know It all, Scovell.
> >
> >
> > It Sounds Like God To Me.
> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com

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