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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 18 Jun 2008 19:20:11 -0700
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 you do know i am baiting you? :)
 
 
 --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Kendall D. Corbett
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > From: Kendall D. Corbett
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] ubl in court
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 7:09 PM
> > Ken,
> > 
> > So, if it's ok to deny one defendants rights,
> > what's to make it wrong to do
> > it for others?  To me the whole thing is eerily
> reminiscent
> > of the McCarthy
> > Era and the Red Scare in th 50's.I would hope that
> any
> > prosecutor who
> > handled a case against UBL would realize that the eyes
> of
> > the world were on
> > him/her and would do it right.  By extension, I'd
> hope
> > the judge handling
> > the case would be very careful to not rule in
> UBL's
> > favor, except in the
> > case of glaring procedural violations.
> > 
> > He may well be insane, but the videos he's made
> since
> > 9/11 show that he's in
> > control of his faculties, and is fully cognizant of
> what
> > he's done (or
> > ordered to be done), so I don't think he meets the
> > standard of not being
> > responsible for his actions because of mental illness
> or
> > defect.
> > 
> > I seem to remember an equal amount of dismay by both
> > Conservatives and
> > Liberals because UBL hasn't been caught or killed.
>  If
> > you look at the
> > Nuremberg trials, Nazi SS officers who had committed
> > atrocities were tried
> > (granted in military tribunals) but because the world
> was
> > watching (or
> > listening) the trials were carried out in as fair a
> manner
> > as possible.
> > 
> > Do you mind if we take this back to the list?  I'd
> like
> > to hear some of the
> > other folks take on this as well....
> > 
> > Kendall
> > 
> > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > redundant!)
> > 
> > The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> > unreasonable one
> > persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> > Therefore, all progress
> > depends on the unreasonable man.
> > 
> > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 1:00 PM, ken barber
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > 
> > >  if he is presumed innocent, why then all the
> > wringging of
> > >  hands on the left becouse ubl has not been
> killed by
> > the
> > >  bush admin?
> > >
> > >  what if he pleads insanity? someone has to be
> crazy
> > to do
> > >  what he has done.
> > >
> > >  what if he gets off on a technicallity?
> > >
> > >  --- On Wed, 6/18/08, Kendall D. Corbett
> > >  [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >  > > From: Kendall D. Corbett
> > >  <[log in to unmask]>
> > >  > Subject: Re: [C-PALSY] Sartre's Coffee
> :-)
> > now ubl
> > >  in court
> > >  > To: [log in to unmask]
> > >  > Date: Wednesday, June 18, 2008, 2:37 PM
> > >  > I think so; if we assume anyone is guilty
> before
> > they
> > >  are
> > >  > proven guilty,
> > >  > what stops us from doing that with
> everyone?  In
> > >  UBL's
> > >  > case, the evidence is
> > >  > pretty overwhelming, so that won't be a
> > problem.
> > >  Some
> > >  > may view it as a
> > >  > waste of time, but I'm with Justice
> Holmes
> > on this
> > >  one:
> > >  >  "It is better that
> > >  > 100 guilty men go free than 1 innocent man
> go to
> > >  prison.
> > >  >
> > >  > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:28 PM, ken
> barber
> > >  > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > > good comeback, kendall.
> > >  > >
> > >  > > on a more serious point, in view of
> last
> > weeks
> > >  supream
> > >  > court decision
> > >  > >
> > >  > > if ubl is captured and is given a
> trail, do
> > we
> > >  > consider him innocent until
> > >  > >  proven guilty?
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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