PHIL,
i AM CONFUSED, WHY WRITE THAT UP AND THEN STATE YOU JUST made it up?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: I Hate God


> Angel,
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> It never happened.  I just made the whole thing up.
>
> Phil.
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Angel238" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 12:41 PM
> Subject: Re: I Hate God
>
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>> This is just weird.  I can't be the only one who has never had such
>> thoughts.  This post would cause us all to think we all have had such
> weird
>> thoughts, but, I never have had such thoughts.  I will admit I have
>> questioned why God allows certain things to happen but I have never even
>> considered hating God, or questioning his infinite wisdom.  Merely I
>> wondered why certain things such as the loss of my husband's mind, for
>> example, would happen.  I questioned how these things could happen if God
>> loved and cared for us.  But I have never denied his existence or
>> disrespected him in any by hating him.  I can't be the only one who has
>> never at all had such thoughts?
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 2:11 PM
>> Subject: I Hate God
>>
>>
>> >I Hate God
>> >
>> >
>> > By Phil Scovell
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     One thing I try and teach those with whom I pray, is about
>> > how demons use thoughts and emotions, or feelings, to deceive us.
>> > Nearly everyone reading this article has experienced such thoughts
>> > and feelings, and probably many times throughout your Christian
>> > walk with the Lord, but likely have never determined its identity.
>> > I could describe a lot of things people experience, or feelings,
>> > physically, and perhaps emotionally, too, when the Enemy is
>> > tossing his fiery darts, but let me begin with one that is common.
>> >
>> >     You may hear in your thoughts, not an audible voice you
>> > understand, but just thoughts within your thoughts, "You are a
>> > lousy Christian."  This can vary widely, from being the worst
>> > sinner on the planet, doomed to hell, or even accusations that
>> > you deserve how you feel because you are a wicked, mean, evil
>> > person.  I'd had people sit across from my desk tell me, "If
>> > people knew what I really was down inside, they would hate me and
>> > stay as far away from me as possible."  When I pray about what
>> > they just said and try probing deeper, they often describe that
>> > inner feeling that frightens them about themselves is evil.  Some
>> > may even confess they have Satan in them or a devil or demon and
>> > conclude that must be why they think and feel the way they do
>> > about themselves.  Likewise, few Christian believe lying spirits
>> > use feelings, their own feelings, the confuse and to deceive.
>> >
>> >     Let me explain another level, a more sinister level, of
>> > deception the Enemy uses against us many times and that is the
>> > direct approach.
>> >
>> >     Recently, I was going through some things in my own life that
>> > were incredibly stressful.  That doesn't mean, in particular, it
>> > was demonic, but it could just have easily been the stress and
>> > tension of every day life.  At least three times, I believe it
>> > was, and all over a period of a couple of days, in my thoughts I
>> > heard, "I hate you God."  Woe horse!  I mean, here is one way, we
>> > immediately think, of eternal condemnation, the unpardonable sin,
>> > and blasphemies against God, on the fly, as it were.  In fact, we
>> > are lucky we don't get struck by lighting when something like that
>> > passes through our thoughts.  Right?  If a person reacts favorably
>> > to such a thought, that is, agrees with it as legitimate, all
>> > hell breaks loose.  All sorts of things get conjured up and
>> > invoked.  For example, "Well, this confirms it.  I'm going to
>> > hell.  I deserve it, too after thinking such a heinous and
>> > nefarious thought."  This is, of course, only the beginning.
>> > Many people, young or old, can begin to experience all sorts of
>> > such thoughts  Some even begin acting out based upon those thing.
>> > Getting drunk so often until you think you've killed the thoughts
>> > in your brain, getting so high you can't see the ground, living
>> > immorally, heterosexually or homosexually, just to have some
>> > degree of pleasure to try and override the horrible thoughts, and
>> > some get involved in new age, which are really old age, religious
>> > practices to try and clear their mind of the evil thoughts they
>> > think they are having.  Some even join cults to try and filter
>> > out, or at least tone down, the horrible thoughts in their minds.
>> > Some even turn to violence.  How many of the satellite and cable
>> > shows have you seen of serial killers where their neighbors,
>> > after finding out he killed 38 people in the last four years, say,
>> > "Oh, he was such a nice guy.  He took out my trash, shoveled my
>> > walk, and even mowed my lawn," while all the time they were living
>> > next door to a murderer.  How do you suppose those types of
>> > horrible people got to be murderers?  Do you suppose they just
>> > awakened one morning and said, "I feel like killing someone today,
>> > cutting off their head, and having sex with the corps?  Of course
>> > that isn't the way it begins.  They generally all have gotten a
>> > mighty good jump start from being physically, and generally,
>> > sexually, abused as children.  I remember one such program I watch
>> > of a guy who killed a couple of young women and in prison, he told
>> > about his dad who always talked about how much he hated him as his
>> > son, always physically beat him, sometimes for nothing he had
>> > done, and once he picked up his dog, tossed the dog into the air
>> > as high as he could, and shot the dog in front of the little boy
>> > before his dog could hit the ground.  That poor little boy had no
>> > chance because his immature mind could not, in any logical way,
>> > sort out all that was happening to him.  In every serial program I
>> > have watched, and I deliberately watch many of them, I wait until
>> > they talk about the murderer and his life that led up to a life of
>> > murderous crime.  They all, every one, have similar horrid
>> > childhood beginnings.  I've even heard them, after killing dozens
>> > of people, say, "The voices in my head told me to do it and the
>> > only way I could silence the voices is to do what they said."
>> > Well, excuse me, but that ain't God talking in their head so whom
>> > do you suppose it might be?  No, I'm not saying they shouldn't be
>> > imprisoned, in fact, I'm not even suggesting they shouldn't be put
>> > to death for their crimes.  I am saying, these horrible cases
>> > developed often by being jump started in some very traumatic and
>> > cadaverous ways.  Let's go back to the every day experience,
>> > however, and focus on that, instead of the worst, in order to gain
>> > greater spiritual insight.
>> >
>> >     As I said, or started to say, I recently experienced, in my
>> > thoughts, what normally used to be a quite unsettling and
>> > disturbing thought: "I hate you God."  In times past, this thought
>> > would be accompanied by an apprehensive flush of anxiety and fear
>> > that would blow the needle off the panic meter.  You see, the
>> > flush of sudden anxiety feeling confirmed the thought must be
>> > true.
>> >
>> >     One day, I was sitting on a chair just off the edge of the
>> > driveway keeping track of my two little grandsons riding their
>> > trikes.  This same identical thought, and feeling, slammed into me
>> > like a truck running over my body.  I immediately freaked.  "Oh,
>> > my God!  I must be an evil person.  Why, I can't be saved.  No
>> > born again Christian would ever even think such a thing."  That is
>> > what I normally began to embellish in my thoughts, emotions
>> > corresponded to confirm the thought.  However, I had been having
>> > some healing experiences which were making me more attuned to the
>> > voice, or thoughts, of  the Holy Spirit, than the Enemy.  So, when
>> > this thought penetrated my thinking patterns, the emotional
>> > counterpart accompanied the thought so I would be deceived into
>> > thinking that I really, deep down inside, hate God.  This time, on
>> > the other hand, something unique occurred.  A split second the
>> > thought invaded my thoughts and the feeling slammed into my body,
>> > I sucked in my breath out of fear that this was who I really was
>> > deep down inside.  The next second, my thoughts said, "Hey, wait
>> > just a minute.  I don't hate God and never have.  Holy cow!  this
>> > is a lying spirit attacking my mind.  Oh, great!"  This joyful
>> > attitude arose because I had already learned, the origin of such
>> > thoughts were not coming from deep inside of me but they were
>> > lies of the Enemy always coming from the outside.  I said, "Oh,
>> > god.  This is wonderful.  Now I can pray and find where this lying
>> > spirit is," and I opened my mouth to pray.  It was too late.  The
>> > lying spirit instantly recognized my awareness of his identity
>> > through his thoughts he was putting in my mind and his emotions he
>> > was putting on my feelings, and it was like a sonic boom just
>> > exploded.  Something I felt, spiritually speaking, on my back,
>> > blew off like dynamite had just gone off.  In my thoughts, my
>> > mind's eye sort of speak, he blew miles backward and guess what?
>> > The anxiety began to slowly subside until it eventually went away
>> > all together.
>> >
>> >     So, when this recently happened again, honestly, you'd think
>> > they would change tactics after awhile, the instant the thoughts,
>> > "I hate God," invaded my thoughts, I stopped what I was doing
>> > before the feelings of fear and anxiety could be dumped on me by
>> > the demonic presence and I prayed against the lies of the lying
>> > spirit and all those who might be working under his authority.
>> > The anxiety never reached my feelings once during the three times
>> > this happened because I took the thought captive the second I
>> > heard it in my mind.  My point is this.  The lying spirit spoke in
>> > the first person, "I hate God."  That made it sound like I said it
>> > but I couldn't say such a thing because I have the Holy Spirit
>> > dwelling in my spirit and He, the Holy Spirit, always agrees with
>> > the Scriptures, the Word and voice of God, and never lies.  Thus,
>> > the Holy Spirit came along side of me and assisted me is seeing
>> > the lie instantly and the lie never was able to take a foothold in
>> > my thoughts or feelings.
>> >
>> >     We often forget that it is our spirit, where the Holy Spirit
>> > dwells, that is born again.  Glorification doesn't take place,
>> > that is, the salvation of our body and soul, until Jesus comes.
>> > Think of it in terms of our Lord's own resurrection.  He needed no
>> > blood then because all three parts, body, soul, and spirit, were
>> > glorified in one body so He did not have the same existence as he
>> > did when He was born of a virgin.  You understand what I mean?
>> > Think about it for awhile and while you are thinking, take every
>> > thought captive when necessary.
>> >
>> >
>> > It Sounds Like God To Me.
>> > www.SafePlaceFellowship.com
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