I think your wording "our mother" gave the impression that we all embrace 
her as our mother, whereas this is not the case.  Most on the list would 
freely recognize that Mary had a very special role to play in the life of 
Jesus, but we don't hold her in such high esteem as those of the Catholic 
faith.

Perhaps you also need to respect others' views on the list and be careful in 
how you write these things.  None of us want to cause offence, but we do all 
have a belief in what we see to be true ... and that's where most of us 
stand.

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Carol
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Angel238" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 4:51 PM
Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude


>I don't want to get into a debate with you as this is not what the list is 
>for.  I wanted to make a basic point here which I did.  Jesus is my 
>brother, God is my father, and as the mother of Our Lord, mary is my 
>mother.  I assumed you felt the same.  This list should be understanding of 
>all Christian faiths.  We Catholics believe Mary to be our mother.  Just 
>leave it at that and regard the point I was trying to make.  There had to 
>be a reason God chose her to be one of the first earthly enfluences and to 
>make one of the first empressions on the baby Jesus.  This virtue was one 
>of them I feel.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude
>
>
>> Mary is not our mother.  As God, He had no mother: as man, He had no 
>> father.
>>
>> earlier, Angel238, wrote:
>>
>>>This is one of the things for which I admire our mother.  She didn't seem 
>>>to fret over things.  Rather, she pondered in her heart what was meant by 
>>>occurances and their significance.  This is one of the many reasons God 
>>>in his infinite wisdom chose her to be the mother of our blessed Lord. 
>>>This is an virtue we would do well to emulate. It would save us much 
>>>unwelcome stress, and would fill us with much Pease.  I have fallen short 
>>>many times of this.  Each time our Lord brings me through a crisis 
>>>safely, I vow to practice this virtue and to allow him to take care of 
>>>the troubling situations in my life which beset me.  Perhaps this will be 
>>>my new years resolution.  I, however, shall just continue to try till it 
>>>happens for me.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:09 PM
>>>Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude
>>>
>>>
>>>>Kathy,
>>>>
>>>>Well, that's good to know I'm not alone, haw.  Strange you should 
>>>>mention
>>>>Mary.  I was thinking of the birth of Christ during Christmas, of 
>>>>course,
>>>>but that took me, for some reason, to thinking about Mary and how 
>>>>courageous
>>>>she must have been when Gabriel appeared to her and gave her the news. 
>>>>Then
>>>>my mind suddenly jumped to the cross and how it must have torn her heart 
>>>>out
>>>>to see her own son hanging naked on the cross while at the same time,
>>>>knowing it was for her sins, too.  Jesus telling John to take care of 
>>>>her is
>>>>so powerful to me whenever I think about it.
>>>>
>>>>Phil.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> John
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