I don't want to get into a debate with you as this is not what the list is 
for.  I wanted to make a basic point here which I did.  Jesus is my brother, 
God is my father, and as the mother of Our Lord, mary is my mother.  I 
assumed you felt the same.  This list should be understanding of all 
Christian faiths.  We Catholics believe Mary to be our mother.  Just leave 
it at that and regard the point I was trying to make.  There had to be a 
reason God chose her to be one of the first earthly enfluences and to make 
one of the first empressions on the baby Jesus.  This virtue was one of them 
I feel.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude


> Mary is not our mother.  As God, He had no mother: as man, He had no 
> father.
>
> earlier, Angel238, wrote:
>
>>This is one of the things for which I admire our mother.  She didn't seem 
>>to fret over things.  Rather, she pondered in her heart what was meant by 
>>occurances and their significance.  This is one of the many reasons God in 
>>his infinite wisdom chose her to be the mother of our blessed Lord.  This 
>>is an virtue we would do well to emulate. It would save us much unwelcome 
>>stress, and would fill us with much Pease.  I have fallen short many times 
>>of this.  Each time our Lord brings me through a crisis safely, I vow to 
>>practice this virtue and to allow him to take care of the troubling 
>>situations in my life which beset me.  Perhaps this will be my new years 
>>resolution.  I, however, shall just continue to try till it happens for 
>>me.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2008 9:09 PM
>>Subject: Re: A cinnical attitude
>>
>>
>>>Kathy,
>>>
>>>Well, that's good to know I'm not alone, haw.  Strange you should mention
>>>Mary.  I was thinking of the birth of Christ during Christmas, of course,
>>>but that took me, for some reason, to thinking about Mary and how 
>>>courageous
>>>she must have been when Gabriel appeared to her and gave her the news. 
>>>Then
>>>my mind suddenly jumped to the cross and how it must have torn her heart 
>>>out
>>>to see her own son hanging naked on the cross while at the same time,
>>>knowing it was for her sins, too.  Jesus telling John to take care of her 
>>>is
>>>so powerful to me whenever I think about it.
>>>
>>>Phil.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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