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somehow, based on history, I'd very seriously doubt that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in theUnited 
States


> You've been lucky.
> --Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
> At 03:56 PM 11/25/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>>I've never had those problems with it for some reason.
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:50 PM
>>Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in theUnited
>>States
>>
>>
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > Well, it is becoming enough of a headache at work that on some of our
>> > systems that need to stay up 24/7 we are looking at retiring those
>> > licenses
>> > and switching to Window-Eyes.  I am going to be doing compatibility
>> > testing
>> > with Window-Eyes this week with our Point Of Sale software, and if it
>> > works, we are pulling the trigger.  I had an illuminating morning 
>> > several
>> > weeks ago when we had to reimage one of our cash register machines and 
>> > had
>> > a miserable time resetting the ILM Authorization necessitating a call 
>> > to
>> > Freedom Scientific.  That wasn't a huge deal then, but suppose we had
>> > gotten the call on a Sunday when there is no tech support.  Our stores 
>> > do
>> > have Sunday hours.  This POS software is pretty DOS-like, so I suspect
>> > Window-Eyes will do better with it anyway.
>> >
>> > My point though is that a couple of years ago, my organization would 
>> > have
>> > just bought JAWS, no questions asked, but we are changing our outlook 
>> > and
>> > are looking at competing products and are considering retiring JAWS 
>> > when
>> > the it looks like it might be a support headache or when development 
>> > would
>> > be easier with other products.  Bluntly, the JAWS Frame Manager isn't 
>> > that
>> > stable, and it has some bugs in it.  When that type of solution is 
>> > needed,
>> > Window-Eyes is almost always more reliable.
>> >
>> > When a solution requires scripting, then JAWS is still a better 
>> > approach.
>> >
>> > My point is that whether they realize it or not, they are losing some
>> > sales
>> > because of their ILM scheme.  Maybe not a lot, but they are losing 
>> > some.
>> >
>> >
>> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 09:50 PM 11/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>As long as the prophets come in, they don't care.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:16 AM
>> >>Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in theUnited
>> >>States
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hi.
>> >> >
>> >> > I frankly don't know what Freedom Scientific would do for trouble if
>> >> > they
>> >> > didn't have their ILM authorization scheme.  I find ILM problems to 
>> >> > be
>> >> > responsible for about 80% of the support problems that we have with
>> >> > video
>> >> > intercept problems making up about another 15% of the problems.  I 
>> >> > just
>> >> > wonder how many more times they have to shoot themselves in the foot
>> >> > before
>> >> > they figure out that it isn't worth it.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > At 11:48 PM 11/23/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>> >> >>Mine said 0 as well but when I went to the FS activate site it
>> >> >>correctly
>> >> >>said I had 1 left and I got 9.0.
>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >> >>From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:33 PM
>> >> >>Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in 
>> >> >>theUnited
>> >> >>States
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >    Harvey:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > What's the best way to check whether you are entitled to another
>> >> >> > upgrade?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I did the alt H and A sequence at the Jaws window, and was 
>> >> >> > surprised
>> >> >> > to
>> >> >> > find
>> >> >> > that they had me listed for no additional upgrades.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is weird, since my University purchased 7.0 for me a little
>> >> >> > over 2
>> >> >> > years ago, at which time I was entitled to the next two upgrades.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I have written to the tech support folks, but they are not always
>> >> >> > known
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > their quick response.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Any help would be suggested here.  I'll also maybe call them on
>> >> >> > Monday.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> > From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:20 PM
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in
>> >> >> > theUnited
>> >> >> > States
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Tom, you, Danny and anyone else are both very welcome.  As for
>> >> >> >> myself,
>> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> don't know if I am entitled to 9.0 or not.  I'll have to check.
>> >> >> >> 73.
>> >> >> >> Harvey
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>--
>> >> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> >> >>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1149 - Release Date:
>> >> >>11/24/2007 10:06 AM
>> >> >
>> >> > Louis Kim Kline
>> >> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> >> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> >> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5740
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> >>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date:
>> >>11/24/2007 5:58 PM
>> >
>> > Louis Kim Kline
>> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5740
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
>>No virus found in this incoming message.
>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.6/1150 - Release Date:
>>11/24/2007 5:58 PM
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
> Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5740
> 

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