>>I added you on this am. Maybe we could start a BP Skype chapter?>>
How many people can log into a Skype call? Can Skype record a call?
John
by hammer and hand great works do stand
by pen and thought best words are wrought
BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS automatic digest system wrote:
> There are 6 messages totalling 1209 lines in this issue.
>
> Topics of the day:
>
> 1. Gothic building - terra cotta substitute - color change
> 2. Skype (4)
> 3. Woolworth - terra cotta
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:20:15 -0400
> From: Brian Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Gothic building - terra cotta substitute - color change
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> --Boundary_(ID_G9fvZmxON1r1YryLGou7Vw)
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Content-disposition: inline
>
> Mostly, I prefer down...
>
>
>
>>What, our professors fuck up?
>>Ralph
>>
>>
>>
>>************************************** See what's free at
>>http://www.aol.com.
>>--
>>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
>>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
>><http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>>
>>
>>
>
> Brian Scott Robinson, MHP
> Professor
> Savannah College of Art and Design
> School of Building Arts
> Historic Preservation Department
> P.O. Box 3146
> Savannah, GA 31402
>
> 912 525 6940 office (Tues/Thurs)
> 912 262 2650 home (students emergency only)
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_G9fvZmxON1r1YryLGou7Vw)
> Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Content-disposition: inline
>
> Mostly, I prefer down...<br><br>
> <br>> What, our professors fuck up?<br>> Ralph<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>> ************************************** See what's free at <br>> http://www.aol.com.<br>> --<br>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the<br>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<br>> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html><br>> <br>> <br>> <br><br>Brian Scott Robinson, MHP<br>Professor<br>Savannah College of Art and Design<br>School of Building Arts<br>Historic Preservation Department<br>P.O. Box 3146<br>Savannah, GA 31402<br><br>912 525 6940 office (Tues/Thurs)<br>912 262 2650 home (students emergency only)<br>[log in to unmask]<br><br><br><br>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_G9fvZmxON1r1YryLGou7Vw)--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:24:21 -0400
> From: Brian Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Skype
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> --Boundary_(ID_ZMQW/UJSL0bHpM3pQuVTbQ)
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Content-disposition: inline
>
> CP,
>
> I added you on this am. Maybe we could start a BP Skype chapter?
>
> Brian
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 2:46 am
> Subject: Re: [BP] Skype
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>>A key to Skype video or camera use is the quality of the
>>camera. For
>>sharing drawings, I used a nifty digital and video microscope called
>>"Scope-on-a-Rope" made by Scaler Scientific. It has
>>interchangeable lenses
>>that fit both a video head and a digital head. The 1:1
>>lens with infinite
>>focus works well for drawings when mounted on a stand for
>>stability. The
>>high resolution and built-in automatic light control option made
>>it great
>>for drawings and images from the architectural planning models,
>>while the
>>standard little computer camera is good for faces and not mush else.
>>
>>The other thing that is a necessity for good communication is
>>headphones to
>>eliminate feedback. I love the handy little mikes
>>that plug into a laptop.
>>However, you have to have the mike ready to plug in in a hurry
>>if someone
>>calls and your computer rings. No mikie no
>>talkie. I missed a few calls
>>that way, but the Skype memory system shows who called so you
>>can call back.
>>
>>One aspect we used a lot during the museum design process was the
>>simultaneous combination of voice, live video and Chat
>>Box. Written
>>chat-style messages can be made during live time, on screen in a
>>side box at
>>the same time as the video image and voice. For
>>example, we might be
>>discussing lighting fixtures, and one of us could type in the
>>web address of
>>a certain company, allowing the other to instantly bring up that
>>web site on
>>screen for inspection and mutual discussion.
>>
>>Skype is amazingly simple to use, but I did not find the new
>>version worth
>>downloading and wished I could go back to the old
>>one. I hate being
>>compelled to learn yet another set of "improvements" when the
>>old system
>>suited me just fine. I just do not need all those
>>choices of ring tones
>>and happy face screen emotion ornaments.
>>
>>Of course Skype doesn't allow you to dial up someone who does
>>not "share
>>their details", like Brian, until they log on to Skype again and
>>see a new
>>text message waiting for them, asking their
>>permission. Of course maybe he
>>did and maybe he doesn't want to, but that is the beauty of the
>>"securesystem". No one from a foreign country can
>>call trying to sell you
>>something over the Skype phone unless you want them to.
>>
>>cp in bc
>>(over the line)
>>
>>--
>>To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
>>uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
>><http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>>
>
> Brian Scott Robinson, MHP
> Professor
> Savannah College of Art and Design
> School of Building Arts
> Historic Preservation Department
> P.O. Box 3146
> Savannah, GA 31402
>
> 912 525 6940 office (Tues/Thurs)
> 912 262 2650 home (students emergency only)
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_ZMQW/UJSL0bHpM3pQuVTbQ)
> Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
> Content-disposition: inline
>
> CP=2C =3Cbr=3E
> =3Cbr=3E
> I added you on this am=2E Maybe we could start a BP Skype chapter=3F=3Cb=
> r=3E
> =3Cbr=3E
> Brian =3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E----- Original Message -----=3Cbr=3EFrom=3A Cuyler=
> Page =26lt=3Bcuyler=40TELUS=2ENET=26gt=3B=3Cbr=3EDate=3A Tuesday=2C Jun=
> e 5=2C 2007 2=3A46 am=3Cbr=3ESubject=3A Re=3A =5BBP=5D Skype=3Cbr=3ETo=3A=
> BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS=40LISTSERV=2EICORS=2EORG=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B A =
> key to Skype video or camera use is the quality of the =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =
> camera=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B For=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B sharing drawings=2C I =
> used a nifty digital and video microscope called=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =22Scop=
> e-on-a-Rope=22 made by Scaler Scientific=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B It has =3C=
> br=3E=26gt=3B interchangeable lenses=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B that fit both a vid=
> eo head and a digital head=2E=26nbsp=3B The 1=3A1 =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B lens =
> with infinite=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B focus works well for drawings when mounted=
> on a stand for =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B stability=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B The=3C=
> br=3E=26gt=3B high resolution and built-in automatic light control optio=
> n made =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B it great=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B for drawings and images=
> from the architectural planning models=2C =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B while the=3C=
> br=3E=26gt=3B standard little computer camera is good for faces and not =
> mush else=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B The other thing that is a =
> necessity for good communication is =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B headphones to=3Cbr=3E=
> =26gt=3B eliminate feedback=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B I love the handy litt=
> le mikes =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B that plug into a laptop=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B How=
> ever=2C you have to have the mike ready to plug in in a hurry =3Cbr=3E=26=
> gt=3B if someone=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B calls and your computer rings=2E=26nbsp=
> =3B=26nbsp=3B No mikie no =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B talkie=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B=
> I missed a few calls=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B that way=2C but the Skype memory s=
> ystem shows who called so you =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B can call back=2E=3Cbr=3E=26=
> gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B One aspect we used a lot during the museum design=
> process was the=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B simultaneous combination of voice=2C li=
> ve video and Chat =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B Box=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B Written=3C=
> br=3E=26gt=3B chat-style messages can be made during live time=2C on scr=
> een in a =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B side box at=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B the same time as t=
> he video image and voice=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B For =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B exa=
> mple=2C we might be=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B discussing lighting fixtures=2C and =
> one of us could type in the =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B web address of=3Cbr=3E=26gt=
> =3B a certain company=2C allowing the other to instantly bring up that =3C=
> br=3E=26gt=3B web site on=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B screen for inspection and mutu=
> al discussion=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B Skype is amazingly sim=
> ple to use=2C but I did not find the new =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B version worth=3C=
> br=3E=26gt=3B downloading and wished I could go back to the old =3Cbr=3E=
> =26gt=3B one=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B I hate being=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B=
> compelled to learn yet another set of =22improvements=22 when the =3Cbr=
> =3E=26gt=3B old system=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B suited me just fine=2E=26nbsp=3B=26=
> nbsp=3B I just do not need all those =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B choices of ring to=
> nes=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B and happy face screen emotion ornaments=2E=3Cbr=3E=26=
> gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B Of course Skype doesn=27t allow you to dial up so=
> meone who does =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B not =22share=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B their detai=
> ls=22=2C like Brian=2C until they log on to Skype again and =3Cbr=3E=26g=
> t=3B see a new=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B text message waiting for them=2C asking t=
> heir =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B permission=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B Of course maybe =
> he=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B did and maybe he doesn=27t want to=2C but that is the=
> beauty of the =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =22securesystem=22=2E=26nbsp=3B=26nbsp=3B=
> No one from a foreign country can =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B call trying to sell =
> you=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B something over the Skype phone unless you want them =
> to=2E=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B cp in bc=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B (over th=
> e line) =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B --=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B To terminat=
> e puerile preservation prattling among pals and the=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B unco=
> ffee-ed=2C or to change your settings=2C go to=3A=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =26lt=3B=
> http=3A//listserv=2Eicors=2Eorg/archives/bullamanka-pinheads=2Ehtml=26gt=
> =3B=3Cbr=3E=26gt=3B =3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3EBrian Scott Robinson=2C MHP=3Cbr=3EP=
> rofessor=3Cbr=3ESavannah College of Art and Design=3Cbr=3ESchool of Buil=
> ding Arts=3Cbr=3EHistoric Preservation Department=3Cbr=3EP=2EO=2E Box 31=
> 46=3Cbr=3ESavannah=2C GA 31402=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E912 525 6940 office (Tues/=
> Thurs)=3Cbr=3E912 262 2650 home (students emergency only)=3Cbr=3Ebrobins=
> o=40scad=2Eedu=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E=3Cbr=3E
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_ZMQW/UJSL0bHpM3pQuVTbQ)--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 08:38:26 -0700
> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Skype
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C7A74C.E28A8370
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Brian Robinson=20
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [BP] Skype
>
>
> CP,=20
>
> I added you on this am. Maybe we could start a BP Skype chapter?
>
> Brian=20
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 2:46 am
> Subject: Re: [BP] Skype
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> > A key to Skype video or camera use is the quality of the=20
> > camera. For
> > sharing drawings, I used a nifty digital and video microscope called
> > "Scope-on-a-Rope" made by Scaler Scientific. It has=20
> > interchangeable lenses
> > that fit both a video head and a digital head. The 1:1=20
> > lens with infinite
> > focus works well for drawings when mounted on a stand for=20
> > stability. The
> > high resolution and built-in automatic light control option made=20
> > it great
> > for drawings and images from the architectural planning models,=20
> > while the
> > standard little computer camera is good for faces and not mush else.
> >=20
> > The other thing that is a necessity for good communication is=20
> > headphones to
> > eliminate feedback. I love the handy little mikes=20
> > that plug into a laptop.
> > However, you have to have the mike ready to plug in in a hurry=20
> > if someone
> > calls and your computer rings. No mikie no=20
> > talkie. I missed a few calls
> > that way, but the Skype memory system shows who called so you=20
> > can call back.
> >=20
> > One aspect we used a lot during the museum design process was the
> > simultaneous combination of voice, live video and Chat=20
> > Box. Written
> > chat-style messages can be made during live time, on screen in a=20
> > side box at
> > the same time as the video image and voice. For=20
> > example, we might be
> > discussing lighting fixtures, and one of us could type in the=20
> > web address of
> > a certain company, allowing the other to instantly bring up that=20
> > web site on
> > screen for inspection and mutual discussion.
> >=20
> > Skype is amazingly simple to use, but I did not find the new=20
> > version worth
> > downloading and wished I could go back to the old=20
> > one. I hate being
> > compelled to learn yet another set of "improvements" when the=20
> > old system
> > suited me just fine. I just do not need all those=20
> > choices of ring tones
> > and happy face screen emotion ornaments.
> >=20
> > Of course Skype doesn't allow you to dial up someone who does=20
> > not "share
> > their details", like Brian, until they log on to Skype again and=20
> > see a new
> > text message waiting for them, asking their=20
> > permission. Of course maybe he
> > did and maybe he doesn't want to, but that is the beauty of the=20
> > "securesystem". No one from a foreign country can=20
> > call trying to sell you
> > something over the Skype phone unless you want them to.
> >=20
> > cp in bc
> > (over the line)=20
> >=20
> > --
> > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> > <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
> >=20
>
> Brian Scott Robinson, MHP
> Professor
> Savannah College of Art and Design
> School of Building Arts
> Historic Preservation Department
> P.O. Box 3146
> Savannah, GA 31402
>
> 912 525 6940 office (Tues/Thurs)
> 912 262 2650 home (students emergency only)
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the =
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: =
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C7A74C.E28A8370
> Content-Type: text/html;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16441" name=3DGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Brian =
> Robinson</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
> [log in to unmask]
> =
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINHEAD=
> [log in to unmask]</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 05, 2007 =
> 6:24=20
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [BP] Skype</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>CP, <BR><BR>I added you on this am. Maybe we could =
> start a BP=20
> Skype chapter?<BR><BR>Brian <BR><BR>----- Original Message =
> -----<BR>From:=20
> Cuyler Page <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>><BR>Date: =
> Tuesday, June=20
> 5, 2007 2:46 am<BR>Subject: Re: [BP] Skype<BR>To: <A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINHEAD=
> [log in to unmask]</A><BR><BR>>=20
> A key to Skype video or camera use is the quality of the <BR>>=20
> camera. For<BR>> sharing drawings, I used a nifty =
> digital and=20
> video microscope called<BR>> "Scope-on-a-Rope" made by Scaler=20
> Scientific. It has <BR>> interchangeable lenses<BR>> =
> that=20
> fit both a video head and a digital head. The 1:1 <BR>> lens =
> with=20
> infinite<BR>> focus works well for drawings when mounted on a stand =
> for=20
> <BR>> stability. The<BR>> high resolution and =
> built-in=20
> automatic light control option made <BR>> it great<BR>> for =
> drawings and=20
> images from the architectural planning models, <BR>> while =
> the<BR>>=20
> standard little computer camera is good for faces and not mush =
> else.<BR>>=20
> <BR>> The other thing that is a necessity for good communication is =
>
> <BR>> headphones to<BR>> eliminate feedback. I love =
> the=20
> handy little mikes <BR>> that plug into a laptop.<BR>> However, =
> you have=20
> to have the mike ready to plug in in a hurry <BR>> if =
> someone<BR>> calls=20
> and your computer rings. No mikie no <BR>> =
> talkie. =20
> I missed a few calls<BR>> that way, but the Skype memory system =
> shows who=20
> called so you <BR>> can call back.<BR>> <BR>> One aspect we =
> used a=20
> lot during the museum design process was the<BR>> simultaneous =
> combination=20
> of voice, live video and Chat <BR>> Box. =
> Written<BR>>=20
> chat-style messages can be made during live time, on screen in a =
> <BR>> side=20
> box at<BR>> the same time as the video image and voice. =
> For=20
> <BR>> example, we might be<BR>> discussing lighting fixtures, =
> and one of=20
> us could type in the <BR>> web address of<BR>> a certain =
> company,=20
> allowing the other to instantly bring up that <BR>> web site =
> on<BR>>=20
> screen for inspection and mutual discussion.<BR>> <BR>> Skype is =
>
> amazingly simple to use, but I did not find the new <BR>> version=20
> worth<BR>> downloading and wished I could go back to the old =
> <BR>>=20
> one. I hate being<BR>> compelled to learn yet =
> another set=20
> of "improvements" when the <BR>> old system<BR>> suited me just=20
> fine. I just do not need all those <BR>> choices of =
> ring=20
> tones<BR>> and happy face screen emotion ornaments.<BR>> =
> <BR>> Of=20
> course Skype doesn't allow you to dial up someone who does <BR>> =
> not=20
> "share<BR>> their details", like Brian, until they log on to Skype =
> again=20
> and <BR>> see a new<BR>> text message waiting for them, asking =
> their=20
> <BR>> permission. Of course maybe he<BR>> did and =
> maybe he=20
> doesn't want to, but that is the beauty of the <BR>>=20
> "securesystem". No one from a foreign country can <BR>> =
> call=20
> trying to sell you<BR>> something over the Skype phone unless you =
> want them=20
> to.<BR>> <BR>> cp in bc<BR>> (over the line) <BR>> =
> <BR>>=20
> --<BR>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and=20
> the<BR>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR>>=20
> =
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html><BR>&g=
> t;=20
> <BR><BR>Brian Scott Robinson, MHP<BR>Professor<BR>Savannah College of =
> Art and=20
> Design<BR>School of Building Arts<BR>Historic Preservation =
> Department<BR>P.O.=20
> Box 3146<BR>Savannah, GA 31402<BR><BR>912 525 6940 office =
> (Tues/Thurs)<BR>912=20
> 262 2650 home (students emergency =
> only)<BR>[log in to unmask]<BR><BR><BR><BR>--=20
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the =
> uncoffee-ed, or=20
> to change your settings, go to:=20
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html=20
> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C7A74C.E28A8370--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 09:04:51 -0700
> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Skype
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7A750.935BD5C0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> Maybe we could start a BP Skype chapter?
> Brian=20
>
> Oh, wouldn't that destroy the elegant mystery of only knowing people =
> through words on screen. For those of us with have never shaken hands, =
> we would then have to live with two images of the people with names we =
> already know.
>
> The first summer I spent on a fire lookout, I learned a hard lesson =
> about allowing images of people in the mind based on only hearing their =
> voices on the Forest Service radio. Our work routine was 21 days on =
> the mountain-top lookout and 3 days off. During my first 21 day shift, =
> I got to know the surrounding lookouts by chatting through the radio =
> system that connected us. My nearest neighbour had been a lookout for =
> 22 years and was a gem of knowledge about the forest area, knowing every =
> little creek and logging road. When a fire happened, he would be able =
> to guide the fire suppression crews to the spot easily over the radio. =
> Because of his voice and manner, I created a picture in my mind of a =
> wizened, lean, leathery skinned old time forest dweller who could stride =
> through the woods with the natural facility and grace of a deer.
>
> When my first 3 day break came, I decided to go visit him on his lookout =
> to meet him in person and also to see the lay of the land from another =
> angle. Fortunately you could drive to his low level hilltop, so off I =
> went. When I got to the place, no one came out of the building to wave =
> a greeting, so I walked up to the door. Inside the little 14 foot =
> square building with windows all around was a giant stuffed arm chair =
> raised up on a coupe of concrete blocks. On one side of the chair was =
> a little table with binoculars and portable radio. On the other side =
> was a stack of beer 12 packs. In the chair was a gigantic round puffy =
> pale skinned couch potato with a big grin. Pete had created a womb =
> that allowed him to almost never have to get up and "do" anything. He =
> was the perfect couch potato in every way. =20
>
> The problem was that now I had to live with two images of the same =
> person, or images of two people with the same name, images that could =
> not have been more different.
>
> Of course, when it comes to meting BP'ers, I have to say that I have =
> never regretted the wonderful lingering images of Delightful Deb across =
> an Ohio truck stop coffee table, or Perky Pam in her pre-Phelps coffee =
> Rochester lunch days.
>
>
> cp in bc
> (believing firmly in the theory of obliesence: "There is no such thing =
> as memory, only experience and the process of forgetting."
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Brian Robinson=20
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [BP] Skype
>
>
> CP,=20
>
> I added you on this am. Maybe we could start a BP Skype chapter?
>
> Brian=20
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cuyler Page <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tuesday, June 5, 2007 2:46 am
> Subject: Re: [BP] Skype
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> > A key to Skype video or camera use is the quality of the=20
> > camera. For
> > sharing drawings, I used a nifty digital and video microscope called
> > "Scope-on-a-Rope" made by Scaler Scientific. It has=20
> > interchangeable lenses
> > that fit both a video head and a digital head. The 1:1=20
> > lens with infinite
> > focus works well for drawings when mounted on a stand for=20
> > stability. The
> > high resolution and built-in automatic light control option made=20
> > it great
> > for drawings and images from the architectural planning models,=20
> > while the
> > standard little computer camera is good for faces and not mush else.
> >=20
> > The other thing that is a necessity for good communication is=20
> > headphones to
> > eliminate feedback. I love the handy little mikes=20
> > that plug into a laptop.
> > However, you have to have the mike ready to plug in in a hurry=20
> > if someone
> > calls and your computer rings. No mikie no=20
> > talkie. I missed a few calls
> > that way, but the Skype memory system shows who called so you=20
> > can call back.
> >=20
> > One aspect we used a lot during the museum design process was the
> > simultaneous combination of voice, live video and Chat=20
> > Box. Written
> > chat-style messages can be made during live time, on screen in a=20
> > side box at
> > the same time as the video image and voice. For=20
> > example, we might be
> > discussing lighting fixtures, and one of us could type in the=20
> > web address of
> > a certain company, allowing the other to instantly bring up that=20
> > web site on
> > screen for inspection and mutual discussion.
> >=20
> > Skype is amazingly simple to use, but I did not find the new=20
> > version worth
> > downloading and wished I could go back to the old=20
> > one. I hate being
> > compelled to learn yet another set of "improvements" when the=20
> > old system
> > suited me just fine. I just do not need all those=20
> > choices of ring tones
> > and happy face screen emotion ornaments.
> >=20
> > Of course Skype doesn't allow you to dial up someone who does=20
> > not "share
> > their details", like Brian, until they log on to Skype again and=20
> > see a new
> > text message waiting for them, asking their=20
> > permission. Of course maybe he
> > did and maybe he doesn't want to, but that is the beauty of the=20
> > "securesystem". No one from a foreign country can=20
> > call trying to sell you
> > something over the Skype phone unless you want them to.
> >=20
> > cp in bc
> > (over the line)=20
> >=20
> > --
> > To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> > uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> > <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
> >=20
>
> Brian Scott Robinson, MHP
> Professor
> Savannah College of Art and Design
> School of Building Arts
> Historic Preservation Department
> P.O. Box 3146
> Savannah, GA 31402
>
> 912 525 6940 office (Tues/Thurs)
> 912 262 2650 home (students emergency only)
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
> -- To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the =
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to: =
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7A750.935BD5C0
> Content-Type: text/html;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =
> charset=3Diso-8859-1">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16441" name=3DGENERATOR>
> <STYLE></STYLE>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Maybe we could start a BP Skype =
>
> chapter?<BR>Brian <BR></STRONG></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Oh, wouldn't that destroy the elegant =
> mystery of=20
> only knowing people through words on screen. For those of us =
>
> with have never shaken hands, we would then have to live with two =
> images of=20
> the people with names we already know.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The first summer I spent on a fire =
> lookout, I=20
> learned a hard lesson about allowing images of people in the mind based =
> on only=20
> hearing their voices on the Forest Service radio. Our work =
> routine=20
> was 21 days on the mountain-top lookout and 3 days off. =
> During my=20
> first 21 day shift, I got to know the surrounding lookouts by chatting =
> through=20
> the radio system that connected us. My nearest neighbour had =
> been a=20
> lookout for 22 years and was a gem of knowledge about the forest area, =
> knowing=20
> every little creek and logging road. When a fire happened, =
> he would=20
> be able to guide the fire suppression crews to the spot easily over the=20
> radio. Because of his voice and manner, I created a picture =
> in my=20
> mind of a wizened, lean, leathery skinned old time forest dweller who =
> could=20
> stride through the woods with the natural facility and grace of=20
> a deer.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>When my first 3 day break came, I =
> decided to go=20
> visit him on his lookout to meet him in person and also to see the lay =
> of the=20
> land from another angle. Fortunately you could drive to his =
> low=20
> level hilltop, so off I went. When I got to the place, no =
> one came=20
> out of the building to wave a greeting, so I walked up to the =
> door. Inside=20
> the little 14 foot square building with windows all around was a giant =
> stuffed=20
> arm chair raised up on a coupe of concrete blocks. On one =
> side=20
> of the chair was a little table with binoculars and portable=20
> radio. On the other side was a stack of beer 12 =
> packs. =20
> In the chair was a gigantic round puffy pale skinned couch potato with a =
> big=20
> grin. Pete had created a womb that allowed him to =
> almost never=20
> have to get up and "do" anything. He was the perfect couch =
> potato in=20
> every way. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The problem was that now I had to live =
> with two=20
> images of the same person, or images of two people with the same name, =
> images=20
> that could not have been more different.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Of course, when it comes to meting =
> BP'ers, I have=20
> to say that I have never regretted the wonderful lingering images of =
> Delightful=20
> Deb across an Ohio truck stop coffee table, or Perky Pam in her =
> pre-Phelps=20
> coffee Rochester lunch days.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>cp in bc</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>(believing firmly in the theory of =
> obliesence:=20
> "There is no such thing as memory, only experience and the process of=20
> forgetting."</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
> BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A [log in to unmask] href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">Brian =
> Robinson</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
> [log in to unmask]
> =
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINHEAD=
> [log in to unmask]</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 05, 2007 =
> 6:24=20
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [BP] Skype</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>CP, <BR><BR>I added you on this am. Maybe we could =
> start a BP=20
> Skype chapter?<BR><BR>Brian <BR><BR>----- Original Message =
> -----<BR>From:=20
> Cuyler Page <<A=20
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]</A>><BR>Date: =
> Tuesday, June=20
> 5, 2007 2:46 am<BR>Subject: Re: [BP] Skype<BR>To: <A=20
> =
> href=3D"mailto:[log in to unmask]">BULLAMANKA-PINHEAD=
> [log in to unmask]</A><BR><BR>>=20
> A key to Skype video or camera use is the quality of the <BR>>=20
> camera. For<BR>> sharing drawings, I used a nifty =
> digital and=20
> video microscope called<BR>> "Scope-on-a-Rope" made by Scaler=20
> Scientific. It has <BR>> interchangeable lenses<BR>> =
> that=20
> fit both a video head and a digital head. The 1:1 <BR>> lens =
> with=20
> infinite<BR>> focus works well for drawings when mounted on a stand =
> for=20
> <BR>> stability. The<BR>> high resolution and =
> built-in=20
> automatic light control option made <BR>> it great<BR>> for =
> drawings and=20
> images from the architectural planning models, <BR>> while =
> the<BR>>=20
> standard little computer camera is good for faces and not mush =
> else.<BR>>=20
> <BR>> The other thing that is a necessity for good communication is =
>
> <BR>> headphones to<BR>> eliminate feedback. I love =
> the=20
> handy little mikes <BR>> that plug into a laptop.<BR>> However, =
> you have=20
> to have the mike ready to plug in in a hurry <BR>> if =
> someone<BR>> calls=20
> and your computer rings. No mikie no <BR>> =
> talkie. =20
> I missed a few calls<BR>> that way, but the Skype memory system =
> shows who=20
> called so you <BR>> can call back.<BR>> <BR>> One aspect we =
> used a=20
> lot during the museum design process was the<BR>> simultaneous =
> combination=20
> of voice, live video and Chat <BR>> Box. =
> Written<BR>>=20
> chat-style messages can be made during live time, on screen in a =
> <BR>> side=20
> box at<BR>> the same time as the video image and voice. =
> For=20
> <BR>> example, we might be<BR>> discussing lighting fixtures, =
> and one of=20
> us could type in the <BR>> web address of<BR>> a certain =
> company,=20
> allowing the other to instantly bring up that <BR>> web site =
> on<BR>>=20
> screen for inspection and mutual discussion.<BR>> <BR>> Skype is =
>
> amazingly simple to use, but I did not find the new <BR>> version=20
> worth<BR>> downloading and wished I could go back to the old =
> <BR>>=20
> one. I hate being<BR>> compelled to learn yet =
> another set=20
> of "improvements" when the <BR>> old system<BR>> suited me just=20
> fine. I just do not need all those <BR>> choices of =
> ring=20
> tones<BR>> and happy face screen emotion ornaments.<BR>> =
> <BR>> Of=20
> course Skype doesn't allow you to dial up someone who does <BR>> =
> not=20
> "share<BR>> their details", like Brian, until they log on to Skype =
> again=20
> and <BR>> see a new<BR>> text message waiting for them, asking =
> their=20
> <BR>> permission. Of course maybe he<BR>> did and =
> maybe he=20
> doesn't want to, but that is the beauty of the <BR>>=20
> "securesystem". No one from a foreign country can <BR>> =
> call=20
> trying to sell you<BR>> something over the Skype phone unless you =
> want them=20
> to.<BR>> <BR>> cp in bc<BR>> (over the line) <BR>> =
> <BR>>=20
> --<BR>> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and=20
> the<BR>> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:<BR>>=20
> =
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html><BR>&g=
> t;=20
> <BR><BR>Brian Scott Robinson, MHP<BR>Professor<BR>Savannah College of =
> Art and=20
> Design<BR>School of Building Arts<BR>Historic Preservation =
> Department<BR>P.O.=20
> Box 3146<BR>Savannah, GA 31402<BR><BR>912 525 6940 office =
> (Tues/Thurs)<BR>912=20
> 262 2650 home (students emergency =
> only)<BR>[log in to unmask]<BR><BR><BR><BR>--=20
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the =
> uncoffee-ed, or=20
> to change your settings, go to:=20
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html=20
> </BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
>
> ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C7A750.935BD5C0--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 12:21:11 -0400
> From: Brian Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Skype
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>
> --Boundary_(ID_/7UtzEXsddyXu9Zx1LhALw)
> Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Content-disposition: inline
>
> CP,
>
> This is exactly the same reason that going to concerts is sometimes difficult for me. The reality of seeing the performer is often way short of what I had imagined them to be. A couple measured up or surpassed expectations...Johnny Cash at the House of Blues during the Atlanta Olympics (he had me bawlin' like a baby), Willie Nelson, Albany, GA (President Carter got up on stage and sang some gospel/spiritual numbers with Willie and then Willie started taking requests from the crowd), The Rolling Stones, Steel Wheels Tour 1991(?) Bobby Dodd Stadium, Atlanta, GA.
>
> Brian (Even better in person) Robinson
>
>
>
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_/7UtzEXsddyXu9Zx1LhALw)
> Content-type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
> Content-disposition: inline
>
> CP, <br>
> <br>
> This is exactly the same reason that going to concerts is sometimes
> difficult for me. The reality of seeing the performer is often way
> short of what I had imagined them to be. A couple measured up or
> surpassed expectations...Johnny Cash at the House of Blues during the
> Atlanta Olympics (he had me bawlin' like a baby), Willie Nelson,
> Albany, GA (President Carter got up on stage and sang some
> gospel/spiritual numbers with Willie and then Willie started taking
> requests from the crowd), The Rolling Stones, Steel Wheels Tour 1991(?)
> Bobby Dodd Stadium, Atlanta, GA.<br>
> <br>
> Brian (Even better in person) Robinson <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
>
> --Boundary_(ID_/7UtzEXsddyXu9Zx1LhALw)--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2007 13:00:49 EDT
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Woolworth - terra cotta
>
> -------------------------------1181062849
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>
> Tim gave me permission to post his fascinating reply to questions about the
> tc repairs on the Wworth Building. Christopher
>
> In a message dated 6/5/2007 12:43:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Christopher:
>
> The discolored masonry units you are seeing on the facades of the Woolworth
> Building are in fact precast concrete dating back to the restoration completed
> in the late 1970s. There were a number of reasons for the choice of precast
> concrete which I'll spew out in no particular order ....
> * There was only one manufacturer of terra-cotta in business at the
> time of the project.
> * Production techniques were limited to ram press forming, which does
> not allow for any undercuts.
> * That manufacturer was and is located on the west coast.
> * New terra cotta units would have required a hand carving of a new
> oversized plaster master for each shape to account for shrinkage when fired.
> * Through the course of the project over 10,000 pieces were replaced in
> over 1,000 different shapes.
> All in all the logistics for using new terra-cotta were overwhelmingly
> complex and would have been prohibitively expensive. Many alternative materials
> were explored and tested and precast concrete was selected primarily because of
> the following advantages:
> * many precast plants to choose from within closer range
> * molds could be made directly from existing pieces since shrinkage was
> negligible
> * quick turnaround as new shapes and quantities were defined during the
> course of the project
>
> Even so, the cost of the project topped $20MM - this was a very large cost in
> 1970's dollars - you probably don't want to know some of the more radical
> alternatives that were also priced out.
>
> Initially the precast concrete units matched very well. They were treated
> with a water repellant to reduce water absorption but that had a limited
> lifetime. The water repellant was to have been re-applied every 5 years in
> conjunction with a five year maintenance and safety survey --- wishful thinking! After
> a few years the units began to stand out on wet days as the water repellant
> lost effectiveness. Then, as Eric alluded to, soiling began to collect in the
> pores and the differences have become permanent and will only get worse.
>
> More than you wanted to know? I have posted this overly lengthy reply to the
> PIN listeserve as I'm an occasional visitor to that swampy environment!
>
> Best;
> Tim
>
> ________________________________________
>
> Timothy Allanbrook AIA
> Senior Consultant
> Wiss, Janney, Elstner Associates, Inc.
> 1350 Broadwa Janney, Elstner Associates, Inc.
> 1350 Broadway, Suite 910 <----- PLEASE NOTE NEW SUITE!
> New York, NY 10018
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> <http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
>
>
>
> -------------------------------1181062849
> Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>
> <HTML><HEAD>
> <META charset=3DUS-ASCII http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; cha=
> rset=3DUS-ASCII">
> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2900.3086" name=3DGENERATOR></HEAD>
> <BODY style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fffff=
> f">
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman">Tim gave me permission to post his fasci=
> nating reply to questions about the tc repairs on the Wworth Building. =
> Christopher </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV>In a message dated 6/5/2007 12:43:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tallanbr=
> [log in to unmask] writes:</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue=20=
> 2px solid">
> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><FONT face=3DAr=
> ial size=3D2>Christopher:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><FONT face=3DAr=
> ial size=3D2>The discolored masonry units you are seeing on the facades of t=
> he Woolworth Building are in fact precast concrete dating back to the restor=
> ation completed in the late 1970s. There were a number of reasons for=20=
> the choice of precast concrete which I'll spew out in no particular order ..=
> ..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <UL dir=3Dltr>
> <LI>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><SPAN class=3D0595=
> 84915-05062007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There was only one manufacturer o=
> f terra-cotta in business at the time of the project. </FONT></SPAN></=
> DIV>
> <LI>
> <DIV align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><FONT face=3DArial size=
> =3D2>Production techniques were limited to ram press forming, which does not=
> allow for any undercuts.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>That manufacturer <SPAN class=3D0595849=
> 15-05062007>was and </SPAN>is located on the west coast<SPAN class=3D0595849=
> 15-05062007>.</SPAN> </FONT>
> <LI><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>New <SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>te=
> rra cotta</SPAN> units would have required a hand carving of <SPAN=
> class=3D059584915-05062007>a </SPAN>new<SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007> ov=
> ersized plaster master for each shape to account for shrinkage when fired.</=
> SPAN> </FONT>
> <LI><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thro=
> ugh the course of the project <SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>over </S=
> PAN>10,000 pieces were replaced in over 1<SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>,<=
> /SPAN>000 different shapes.</FONT></LI></UL>
> <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial><F=
> ONT size=3D2>All in all the logistics for using new terra-cotta were overwhe=
> lmingly complex and <SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>would have been pr=
> ohibitively </SPAN>expensive<SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>. </SPAN>=
> Many alternative materials were explored and tested<SPAN class=3D059584915-0=
> 5062007> a</SPAN>nd precast concrete was selected primarily because of the f=
> ollowing advantages<SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>:</SPAN></FONT></FONT></=
> DIV>
> <UL dir=3Dltr>
> <LI>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>many preca=
> st plants to choose from within closer range</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <LI><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>molds=
> </SPAN> could be made directly from existing pieces since shrinkage was=
> negligible </FONT></FONT>
> <LI>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>quick turn=
> around as new shapes and quantities were defined during the course of the pr=
> oject</FONT></SPAN></DIV></LI></UL>
> <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><SPAN class=3D0595849=
> 15-05062007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Even so, the cost of the project top=
> ped $20MM - this was a very large cost in 1970's dollars - you probably don'=
> t want to know some of the more radical alternatives that were also priced o=
> ut.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial si=
> ze=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV dir=3Dltr><FONT face=3DArial><FONT size=3D2><SPAN class=3D059584915-050=
> 62007>I</SPAN>nitially the precast concrete units matched very well<SPAN cla=
> ss=3D059584915-05062007>. They were treated with a water repellant to=20=
> reduce water absorption but that had a limited lifetime. The water rep=
> ellant was to have been re-applied every 5 years in conjunction with a five=20=
> year maintenance and safety survey --- wishful thinking! After a few y=
> ears the units began to stand out on wet days as the water repellant lo=
> st effectiveness. Then, as Eric alluded to, soiling began to collect in=
> the pores and the differences have become permanent and will only get worse=
> .</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial si=
> ze=3D2></FONT> </DIV><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN>
> <DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial><F=
> ONT size=3D2>M<SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007>ore than you wanted to know?&=
> nbsp; I have posted this overly lengthy reply to the PIN listeserv=
> e as I'm an occasional visitor to that swampy environment!</SPAN></FONT=
>
>></FONT></DIV>
>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007></SPAN><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></F=
> ONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best;</FON=
> T></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> &nbs=
> p; Tim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=3D059584915-05062007><!-- Converted from text/plain format=20=
> -->
> <P><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>________________________________________<BR><=
> BR>Timothy Allanbrook AIA<BR>Senior Consultant<BR>Wiss, Janney, Elstner Asso=
> ciates, Inc.<BR>1350 Broadwa Janney, Elstner Associates, Inc.<BR>1350 Broadw=
> ay, Suite 910 <----- PLEASE NOTE NEW SUITE!<BR>New York, NY 10018</FONT><=
> /P></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"></FONT></DIV><BR><BR><BR><DIV><FONT styl=
> e=3D"color: black; font: normal 10pt ARIAL, SAN-SERIF;"><HR style=3D"MARGIN-=
> TOP: 10px">See what's free at <A title=3D"http://www.aol.com?ncid=3DAOLAOF00=
> 020000000503" href=3D"http://www.aol.com?ncid=3DAOLAOF00020000000503" target=
> =3D"_blank">AOL.com</A>. </FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> --
> To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
> uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
> http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html
>
>
> -------------------------------1181062849--
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of BULLAMANKA-PINHEADS Digest - 5 Jun 2007 to 6 Jun 2007 (#2007-132)
> ************************************************************************
>
>
>
--
To terminate puerile preservation prattling among pals and the
uncoffee-ed, or to change your settings, go to:
<http://listserv.icors.org/archives/bullamanka-pinheads.html>
|
