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John Miller <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 25 Nov 2007 15:56:12 -0500
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I've never had those problems with it for some reason.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in theUnited 
States


> Hi.
>
> Well, it is becoming enough of a headache at work that on some of our
> systems that need to stay up 24/7 we are looking at retiring those 
> licenses
> and switching to Window-Eyes.  I am going to be doing compatibility 
> testing
> with Window-Eyes this week with our Point Of Sale software, and if it
> works, we are pulling the trigger.  I had an illuminating morning several
> weeks ago when we had to reimage one of our cash register machines and had
> a miserable time resetting the ILM Authorization necessitating a call to
> Freedom Scientific.  That wasn't a huge deal then, but suppose we had
> gotten the call on a Sunday when there is no tech support.  Our stores do
> have Sunday hours.  This POS software is pretty DOS-like, so I suspect
> Window-Eyes will do better with it anyway.
>
> My point though is that a couple of years ago, my organization would have
> just bought JAWS, no questions asked, but we are changing our outlook and
> are looking at competing products and are considering retiring JAWS when
> the it looks like it might be a support headache or when development would
> be easier with other products.  Bluntly, the JAWS Frame Manager isn't that
> stable, and it has some bugs in it.  When that type of solution is needed,
> Window-Eyes is almost always more reliable.
>
> When a solution requires scripting, then JAWS is still a better approach.
>
> My point is that whether they realize it or not, they are losing some 
> sales
> because of their ILM scheme.  Maybe not a lot, but they are losing some.
>
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
>
> At 09:50 PM 11/24/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>>As long as the prophets come in, they don't care.
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:16 AM
>>Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in theUnited
>>States
>>
>>
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I frankly don't know what Freedom Scientific would do for trouble if 
>> > they
>> > didn't have their ILM authorization scheme.  I find ILM problems to be
>> > responsible for about 80% of the support problems that we have with 
>> > video
>> > intercept problems making up about another 15% of the problems.  I just
>> > wonder how many more times they have to shoot themselves in the foot
>> > before
>> > they figure out that it isn't worth it.
>> >
>> > 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 11:48 PM 11/23/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>> >>Mine said 0 as well but when I went to the FS activate site it 
>> >>correctly
>> >>said I had 1 left and I got 9.0.
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:33 PM
>> >>Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in theUnited
>> >>States
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >    Harvey:
>> >> >
>> >> > What's the best way to check whether you are entitled to another
>> >> > upgrade?
>> >> >
>> >> > I did the alt H and A sequence at the Jaws window, and was surprised 
>> >> > to
>> >> > find
>> >> > that they had me listed for no additional upgrades.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is weird, since my University purchased 7.0 for me a little 
>> >> > over 2
>> >> > years ago, at which time I was entitled to the next two upgrades.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have written to the tech support folks, but they are not always 
>> >> > known
>> >> > for
>> >> > their quick response.
>> >> >
>> >> > Any help would be suggested here.  I'll also maybe call them on 
>> >> > Monday.
>> >> >
>> >> > 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Harvey Heagy" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:20 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Information regarding the JAWS 9 SMA shipment in 
>> >> > theUnited
>> >> > States
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Tom, you, Danny and anyone else are both very welcome.  As for 
>> >> >> myself,
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> don't know if I am entitled to 9.0 or not.  I'll have to check. 
>> >> >> 73.
>> >> >> Harvey
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>No virus found in this incoming message.
>> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> >>Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.5/1149 - Release Date:
>> >>11/24/2007 10:06 AM
>> >
>> > Louis Kim Kline
>> > A.R.S. K2LKK
>> > Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
>> > Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5740
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>--
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>>Checked by AVG Free Edition.
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>>11/24/2007 5:58 PM
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
> Home e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work e-mail:  [log in to unmask]
> Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5740
> 

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