Actually, Ken - I wouldn't have guard rails - if you are stupid enough
to get to close to the edge and fall over - it's your own fault - half
of what is wrong with society is we baby people and don't make them
responsible for their actions or make excuses for them. You can't
mollycoddle people so they are safe forever and life is not fair -
people today think that they should have everything, they should be safe
in their cars no matter how stupid they drive, etc. And if this doesn't
happen - its someone's else fault and they need to make a law so that
people wear their seat belts - cars have air bags - or sue someone or
declare bankruptcy etc. Cars, ideas and guns aren't dangerous until they
get in the hands of idiots - which is a large portion of the population.
Also people really want to stay in their comfort zones and forward
thinking people with new ideas have had to fight to get every single
improvement from the flat earth theory- to women being property -
changed. It's always different if it's you - so you want to make sure
you get your disability rights - but gay people shouldn't have their
rights - Rights I think should be for everyone - as long as someone is
not being harmed - same gender marriage hurts no one - rape hurts
everyone. Children are to be protected - they are the future. What you
and many people want is everything spelled out and certain and everyone
being a cookie cutter person and safe. Ain't going to happen - can't
make it happen. This kind of stagnation spells the end. We grow thru
change - and people hate change and fight change - which is why it
takes generations before - we get actually get an across the board
change - look at the people still fighting the civil war ..... sheesh
Trisha
-----Original Message-----
From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
Of ken barber
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 3:13 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: actually linda is right
you would not remove the guard rails that are at the
cliff edges at the grand canyon because of what is
likely to happen.
you don't ignore the slippery slope that is there
because it is prudent to look at what is likely to
happen.
nothing to do with morals; everything to do with good
common sense.
--- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> You know the one thing I learned while I was
> teaching in that
> Christian private school - is those people are very
> sincere in their
> beliefs - and no I never mentioned I am Pagan nor
> argued with one thing
> said. As I said I learned they honestly and
> sincerely believe what they
> believe. And so it is everyone - so why would anyone
> think they would
> bring you around to their way of thinking - we can
> never change anyone's
> mind - they have see beyond the horizon of their
> boundaries - a
> uncomfortable play to be.
>
> I have no problem with gay marriages - if polygamy
> were a voluntary
> state - not a brainwasher slave state - I could
> perhaps see it but for
> the most part since we have no positive role models
> here - it's hard to
> make a judgement on it. I can see jealousy being a
> major factor in it
> not being successful. I really don't think anyone
> backs pedifiles. Of
> course you do have some laws for young marriages. I
> think the thing is
> view each item on its own merits and not lump them
> together because it
> might lead down a slippery slope - blanket
> com=ndemning things - could
> be seen as going down a slippery slope also.
>
> Oooops got to run..... Trisha
> (who is taking her
> Mom shopping)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of ken barber
> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 4:36 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: actually linda is right
>
> actually linda is right on the fact that i do not
> post
> much of controversy direct to the list as much as i
> once did. i am following the advice that i give my
> son
> "choose your fights well and be sure they are worth
> the efford you are going to have to put in them." i
> post many things to about 3 or 4 people who for the
> most part do not agreee with my opinions, but that i
>
> know are not going to attack me for having my
> opinions.
> the last time i posted on an issue like this one,
> it
> was entwined in with a discussion of not only
> polygamy
> but gay rights and other alternative lifestyles.
> when
> i said "many adults wanted sex with children" i was
> accused of "hate speech." after that post i got
> quite
> a load of off list email(from the tolerate liberals
> on
> the list) and if you want to know hate speech you
> should have been able to read a few of those. that
> lead me to post my "i will not be intimidated" by
> this
> tactic email.
> now, since the subject is out here, these people
> are
> Pedophiles. they are like a nest of vermin. you
> attack
> them in one place and they just move to another and
> produce anotherr nest.
> linda's opinion that officials at the mormon
> church
> publicly critisize polygamay while giving it a wink
> and a nod my indeed be true. i can neither confirm
> nor disprove it. i know that the mormons that i
> personally know do not like it. the law enforcement
> and politicos from arizona and utah might could
> have
> given texas a "heads up" if they knew these people
> were in texas. every state has their own law
> enforcement.
> like i said these are Pedophiles. this bunch
> hides
> behind "religion."
> when you talk of pedophiles though, you have to
> go
> after them all. you also talk of the judges who turn
> these convicted beast loose back on the streets (and
> back on our kids) with little or no years in jail.
> you
> talk of the states where a few politicos block
> passage
> of some version of jessica's law in their state. off
> the top of my head i think off Mass. WHERE ONE
> DEMOCRAT POLITICIAN HAS BLOCK A VOTE IN THE
> LEGISLATURE FOR 2 YEARS.
> you can't just get after the dirty old men who want
> young girls, you have to think of older women who
> want
> young boys. i think of one in forida who was "too
> pretty to go to jail."
> there are men who want young boys and women who want
> young girls. they are all pedophiles.
> now i will reap the opinion that got so much heat.
> when you start redefining marriage as something
> different that one woman married to one man to
> accommodate one alternate lifestyle, you are going
> to
> have another group go before some pinhead judge and
> asking "ratify me too." where does it stop once you
> are on the slippery slope?
> if you think this is hate speech and want to email
> me; DON'T BOTHER.
>
>
>
>
>
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