John,

Ron Paul sounds good but he is quite ambiguous about a constitutional
federal amendment to ban abortions.  He believes Row verse Wade is wrong, he
says, but he also says he does not believe in a federal constitutional
amendment to ban them.  So what's up with that backwards logic?  If they
think we need a national federal marriage amendment, protection of the
unborn should be just as necessary in today's world.  It makes me mad Fox
news won't let Ron Paul in on the republican up and coming debates they are
sponsoring, too.  Makes no sense even if such debates with so many
candidates is ridiculous.

Phil.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: Who Are Evangelicals?


> I think Ron Paul looks good.
>
> earlier, Phil Scovell, wrote:
>
> >Kathy,
> >
> >He was complimentary, Rush was that is, concerning the voters but it just
> >sounded to me that he was trying to say Christian voters were not as true
of
> >conservatives but voted more based upon their religious beliefs.  I watch
> >Bill O'o'Riley often and he seems to imply the same.  It makes me believe
> >these guys because Christians, when compared to other conservatives,
can't
> >see the forest for the trees.  Frankly, I'm partly libertarian in some of
my
> >political beliefs, believe it or not, so I bristle any time I think
someone
> >is saying I support someone just because I'm a Christian and he's a
> >Christian, too.  For example, as much as Mormon theology freaks me out,
if
> >Romney turned out to be the repub nominee, if he truly is pro life now,
> >although he wasn't before, that is one big time issue that would allow me
to
> >vote for him, although I would have other criteria in the mix before I
made
> >up my mind.  On the other hand, I'll never vote for Juliani, or however
he
> >spells his name, because he believes in letting people decide to kill
their
> >unborn children and although he carries a gun himself, he doesn't believe
> >common citizens have a right to protect themselves in the same manner.
> >That's just for starters.  He has a whole boat load of things that makes
me
> >wonder why he is even a republican in the first place.  I sort of laughed
> >last night when they interview Pat Robertson on Fox news.  He said the
Lord
> >had indeed told him who was going to be the next president but he refused
to
> >say because he hoped he was wrong.  I have learned, concerning Rush, to
read
> >between the lines, to some degree, because he isn't exactly what he
appears
> >to be.  I find the same to be true with O'Riley.  Frankly, I wish all the
> >primaries were over and we could see who is left standing so we could
find
> >out what the candidates really believe.  Is that possible?  Bush dropped
the
> >ball somewhere along the line in some respects but I'd still rather have
him
> >the than any of the current Dems.  I'd probably vote for Lieberman, on
the
> >other hand, if he were running but I don't know what his abortion
position
> >is but since he isn't running, I don't care what it is.  I don't care
what
> >party a person is, I will not vote for anyone who believes in killing the
> >unborn.  Call me a one issue conservative if you like but 50 million
murders
> >cannot be morally justifiable for a country, Christian or not.  I'm a one
> >issue Christian when it comes to salvation, so I guess I can be a one
issue
> >voter, too, if I have to be.
> >
> >Phil.
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 4:49 AM
> >Subject: Re: Who Are Evangelicals?
> >
> >
> > > Interesting Phil,
> > > I happened to catch a lot of Rush on Friday as well, but I think I
> > > came away with a different take.  Oh well.
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:28 PM 1/4/2008, you wrote:
> > > >I think I figured it out by listening to Rush today.  Of course, Rush
is
> >mad
> > > >at Huckabee in the first place but he is definitely hacked off he won
> >Iowa.
> > > >A definite political drop in the bucket, even if I was born there,
but a
> >win
> > > >nonetheless.  Other than that, I have spent quite awhile today
listening
> >to
> > > >Rush insist that Huckabee won only due to those who are not true
> > > >conservative voters, that is, the evangelical Christians that pulled
> > > >Huckabee through.  At first, this odd political analysis made me feel
> >funny
> > > >coming from someone that has been, quote, the conservative leader of
the
> > > >world for decades, unquote, but then I remembered how mad I was when
Rush
> > > >pushed NAFTA so much years ago.  Look what we now have for that?
Jobs
> >out
> > > >sourced to all points of the globe, including our Enemies, and we now
> >also
> > > >are spending our tax dollars to support non American citizens in
school,
> > > >their health care, unpaid health care, driver's licenses, jobs, which
> > > >Americans won't do we are told, and free refrigerators, washers,
driers,
> > > >subsidized housing, and at the same time, they don't even need to
speak
> > > >English or read it and some even want them to vote.  Even so come
Lord
> > > >Jesus.
> > > >
> > > >Phil.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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