Hi Vinny,
I hope you won't judge all americans by the way our president conducts 
himself and his business.  I realize you are not judging all of us but I 
think you know what I mean here.  It is a sad state of affairs in our nation 
today.

Virgie and Lady Hoshi
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vinny Samarco" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:58 PM
Subject: Re: If America is a Christian nation then why isn't America more 
Christlike?


> whoever said America was a Christian nation?  Not anymore, that's for 
> sure. Now, there certainly are Christians in America, but though the 
> president says he is a christian, his policies are certainly 
> questionable--like celebrating Ramadan with the Moslems, or saying Islam 
> is a "religion of peace"
> Vinny
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Reeva Parry" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:01 PM
> Subject: If America is a Christian nation then why isn't America more 
> Christlike?
>
>
>> This will make you stop and think, and may bring some discussion to this 
>> list.
>>
>>
>> Reeva Parry.
>>
>>
>>>From: "Mary Piccerello" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>
>>>
>>>If America is a Christian nation then why isn't America more Christlike?
>>>
>>><http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_richard__071126_if_america_is_a_chri.htm>http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_richard__071126_if_america_is_a_chri.htm
>>>
>>>November 26, 2007
>>>
>>>If America is a Christian nation then why isn't America more Christlike?
>>>
>>>By Richard Mathis
>>>
>>>If Jesus said blessed are the peacemakers then why do more than 70% of 
>>>the
>>>religious right support the war in Iraq and a potential war in Iran?
>>>
>>>If Jesus warned that those who live by the sword shall die by the sword 
>>>then
>>>why has Blackwater gotten rich serving a Christian president?
>>>
>>>If the Bible prophesied swords shall be beaten into plowshares then why 
>>>does
>>>the religious right support huge military spending?
>>>
>>>If Jesus taught to pray for your enemies and wish them well then why are 
>>>we
>>>waging war to wipe them out?
>>>
>>>If the Bible revealed that Jesus came so that there could be peace on 
>>>earth
>>>then why do religious rights preach that anybody who wants peace on earth
>>>is working for the Devil?
>>>
>>>If Jesus admitted that not even he knew the day and hour of the end of 
>>>days
>>>then why do so many religious rights make a career of predicting 
>>>Armageddon?
>>>
>>>If Jesus instructed that the mercy you show will be the mercy you are 
>>>shown
>>>then why are conservative Christians so much in favor of the death 
>>>penalty?
>>>
>>>If Jesus proclaimed the new law is to turn the other cheek then why is 
>>>the
>>>religious right so much in favor of the old eye for an eye and a tooth 
>>>for a
>>>tooth law?
>>>
>>>If Jesus pleaded that it was doing unto him by comforting those in prison
>>>then why do so many religious righters say lock them up and throw away 
>>>the key?
>>>
>>>If Jesus admonished that "let him without sin cast the first stone" what
>>>animated Ted Haggard, Mark Foley and Larry Craig to cast away with 
>>>abandon?
>>>
>>>If Jesus gave notice that whoever does unto one of these little ones is
>>>doing in my name then why don't all American children have health 
>>>coverage?
>>>
>>>If Jesus said blessed are the hungry for they will be fed but woe unto 
>>>those who feast now for their hunger will be far greater, then why do 
>>>Americans waste $88 billion of food a year while someone in the world 
>>>dies of starvation every 3.5 seconds?
>>>
>>>If Jesus declared that we do not live by bread alone then why are 2/3 of
>>>Americans obese?
>>>
>>>If Jesus advocated that the worth of one's soul consists of more than 
>>>mere material possessions than why do we value a person based on their 
>>>net worth?
>>>
>>>If Jesus counseled that when you pray, don't be like the heathens and 
>>>pray for what you want, then why are so many prosperity preachers storing 
>>>up riches here on earth by selling people the belief that they are not 
>>>richer simply because they do not know how to pray to God to get what 
>>>they want?
>>
>>>If Jesus established that if you wanted to follow Him, then sell all you 
>>>own
>>>and give the money to the poor, then why are so many ministers living in 
>>>pearly white mansions, while so many homeless are sleeping under bridges?
>>>
>>>If Jesus stated, you cannot serve God and Mammon, then why is greed good 
>>>and materialism so worshiped in America?
>>>
>>>If Jesus blessed the poor, then why are the poor so despised in America?
>>>
>>>If James, the brother of Jesus, wrote that the poor are God's chosen, 
>>>then
>>>why do you have to spend so much money to get elected?
>>>
>>>If Jesus cautioned, do not exalt yourself, for you will be humbled, then 
>>>why do
>>>Americans elect candidates who exalt themselves as Christians?
>>>
>>>If Jesus warned, do not swear by heaven, or God, or add anything to your 
>>>word
>>>because doing so would mean your word is inadequate on its own, then why
>>>does the religious right always have to resort to invoking God's name
>>>whenever they want somebody to vote their way?
>>>
>>>If Paul announced that, in Jesus Christ, there is neither male nor 
>>>female,
>>>Gentile or Jew, nor master nor servant, then why have women, nonwhites 
>>>and
>>>gays been treated as second class citizens or worse for so long?
>>>
>>>If Jesus taught, to do unto others as you would have them done unto you, 
>>>then
>>>do Americans want to be treated as they have treated Native Americans?
>>>
>>>If Jesus advised, condemn not, lest you be condemned, then why is the 
>>>religious right so obsessed with damning gays to hell and back?
>>>
>>>If the Bible gave notice that a house divided cannot stand, then why is
>>>America so divided into feuding red and blue factions?
>>>
>>>If Jesus cautioned not even to become angry in your own house because you
>>>risk the flames of hell, then why are so many conservative Christian
>>>commentators always so angry?
>>>
>>>If Jesus implored you to fear not, and the Bible added that he who fears
>>>does not know God, then why are most religious rights fear-mongers?
>>>
>>>If Jesus instructed to love your neighbors as yourselves, then why do so 
>>>many
>>>conservatives want desperately poor Mexicans to stay home?
>>>
>>>If Jesus ordered to render unto Caesar and God each what is theirs,
>>>respectively, then why are there any lingering questions about separation 
>>>of church and state?
>>>
>>>If Jesus held, the truth shall set you free, then why does the religious 
>>>right
>>>oppose the teaching of evolution?
>>>
>>>If Jesus preached, don't pray publically like the hypocrites, just to be 
>>>seen
>>>but to go by yourself and pray in private, then why does the religious 
>>>right
>>>insist on praying loudly in public places, like schools?
>>>
>>>If Jesus condemned religious hypocrites for wearing special clothes to 
>>>draw
>>>attention to themselves as holier-than-thou, then why does the religious 
>>>right dress in bumperstickers and buttons?
>>>
>>>If Jesus let be known that you could identify his followers by them 
>>>showing
>>>love to one another, then why do so many conservative Christians have to
>>>repeatedly tell you just how saved and Christian they are?
>>>
>>>If Jesus advised his followers to move on if nobody wanted to hear his
>>>message, then why does the religious right persist on making their
>>>interpretation of his message the law of the land?
>>>
>>>If Jesus advocated living carefree and trusting like wild birds or 
>>>flowers
>>>Then why are we paving over paradise to put up a parking lot?
>>>
>>>If Jesus' first miracle was to turn water into wine, then why are so many
>>>religious rights teetotalers?
>>
>>
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