That would be great.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Panic Prayers


> Sure Kim,
>
> We can work something out.  I remember we prayed together once before but 
> I
> have been thinking about setting up a phone conferencing line, or perhaps
> audio studies on my website, where people can be taught and prayed with
> online or over the phone or can listen to the web audio teachings free of
> charge.
>
> Phil.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kim Etheridge" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: Panic Prayers
>
>
>> Thanks. Will you be my prayer partner in this? For one, you're more
> familiar
>> with this than I am, and you're knowledgeable. Plus, I haven't learned to
>> hear the voice of the Lord, although I've been His child for 23 years 
>> now.
>> No one's taught me these things, so I need someone to help me, until I 
>> can
>> do it on my own.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:02 PM
>> Subject: Panic Prayers
>>
>>
>> >I am going to repost my testimony about the turtle experience and where
> it
>> > led me following this answer to Kim's question so you can compare.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Kim asked,
>> >
>> >     Say, when you pray, like when you had your  headache, how do
>> > you hunt for demonic activity? This may be something I can  use,
>> > in addition to Christian programming.
>> >
>> >     Kim, I am using the statement, "Hunting for demonic
>> > activity," loosely.  What I really do is a form of prayer I just
>> > called Search And Destroy missions or SAD for short.  I mentally
>> > and spiritually examine whatever emotion I am faced with at that
>> > moment.  If, for example, I feel an emotion that feels like fear
>> > or some type of anxiety, I begin to pray and ask the Lord to show
>> > me if this fear is associated, or connected, to any other area of
>> > my life that hasn't been healed.  The Bible calls this the
>> > renewing of the mind.  What I look for is a memory, or perhaps
>> > only a fragment of a memory, that doesn't feel right and feels
>> > emotionally connected to the presenting emotion such as fear,
>> > guilt, or rejection.  It could be something that happened last
>> > week, last month or 30 years ago.  It could be, since I am 55
>> > years old, something that happened even 55 years ago.
>> >
>> >     If you recall my testimony about one of our pet turtles,
>> > which I posted recently, and how his head was stuck inside his
>> > shell, that is a perfect example of how I "hunt for demons," sort
>> > of speak.  What I am really doing is hunting for lies I believe
>> > but am unaware of its presence in my life.
>> >
>> >     In the case of the turtle's head being stuck in his shell, it
>> > rolled around in my thoughts for days.  Because it kept surfacing
>> > in my thoughts, I eventually realized the Holy Spirit must be
>> > trying to tell me something or He had something He wished to
>> > reveal to me.  I knew this because the thought of that turtle's
>> > head caught inside his shell and unable to get free, made me feel
>> > a slight sense of being trapped myself.  I couldn't figure out,
>> > why something that insignificant, would make me feel that way.
>> >
>> >     Finally, I stopped what I was doing one day, sat down, and
>> > said, "Ok, Lord.  What is it?  Why am I having the feeling of
>> > being trapped, or cornered, or unable to free myself?"  I simply
>> > focused on the feeling, although, as I said, it was just a slight
>> > emotional feeling of being trapped, or tangled, or caught.  I did
>> > not initially think this had anything to do with me personally,
>> > that is, my feelings about the turtle getting his head caught
>> > inside his shell.  I mean, it seemed impossible to me that this
>> > situation could have a single thing to do with me but it did.  Not
>> > in a way some might think but in an object lesson of inner healing
>> > in a manner of speaking.
>> >
>> >     When I sat down to pray, in my thoughts I just asked the Lord
>> > to show me the connection, if any, in my own life relating to the
>> > current feelings I had.  I was just thinking all this in my mind
>> > and not speaking out loud.  I began to search through my memories
>> > as I felt the emotions associated with the situation with the
>> > turtle which I was personally feeling.  Every memory I went to
>> > that seemed to have the theme of being stuck or caught or trapped
>> > held nothing contained in the memory that fit.  In other words, My
>> > spirit did not recognize anything that was disturbing in any of
>> > the memories that came to mind.  Since I quickly ran out of
>> > memories, I said in my thoughts, "Lord?  I'm not seeing anything.
>> > The memories I have seen feel ok and non threatening.  Where is
>> > the connection, Lord?"
>> >
>> >     Immediately, I heard the word "Womb" spoken and I instantly
>> > saw a birthing room in a hospital.  Although I don't always see
>> > Jesus in a memory event as I pray and focus on a memory, this time
>> > I did.  It appeared as if I were standing a few feet away from the
>> > picture I was seeing in my mind.  I also immediately saw my mom
>> > attempting to give birth on a surgical table and I could see
>> > myself inside her womb, and upside down, and struggling to get
>> > out.  I felt, as I prayed, that is, as I viewed the memory before
>> > me in my mind, as if I were tangled up and unable to break free.
>> > That feeling instantly confirmed I was actually seeing a memory I
>> > never knew I had but it had been filed away by my mind.  Your
>> > mind, by the way, never forgets anything but stores every single
>> > event of your life in various locations of your brain which the
>> > mind itself, by way of emotions, can tap into at any time for any
>> > reason.  Also in this memory picture, I saw two figures that I
>> > identified as doctors and they were standing on either side of my
>> > mom.  Jesus was off to my right as I saw the memory unfold before
>> > me, and standing a few feet further away from all that was going
>> > on.  In between where Jesus was standing, there was a dark figure
>> > standing closer to my mother.  I almost, at the second I saw this
>> > dark shape, asked Jesus what, or who, it was but then I suddenly
>> > knew.  I knew because the Holy Spirit revealed it to me without
>> > speaking a word.  It was the Enemy, a lying spirit, speaking to my
>> > mom generally, and to me specifically.  What was the lying spirit
>> > saying?  Oh, things like, "You are trapped.  You aren't going to
>> > make it.  You are going to die," and many other such lies.  Make
>> > no mistake about it.  These were lies being spoken to me, and to
>> > my mother, and to anyone else in the room that might have been
>> > listening on a spiritual frequency, sort of speak.  At this
>> > moment, I looked toward Jesus to see what He might say.  I felt
>> > His answer and no words were spoken but His answer was, "You can
>> > make it.  I'm here.  I have everything under control.  Just
>> > watch."  I did.
>> >
>> >     I watched then as I slipped right through the birth canal and
>> > the illumination of the room seemed to instantly brighten.  I saw
>> > a little baby boy being born who was so happy, he said as he came
>> > out, "I born!"  I looked over again to where Jesus was standing
>> > and he was clapping his hands and saying, "See?  I told you that
>> > you could do it."  The rush of emotional joy and happiness I felt
>> > at that moment still gives me goose bumps just thinking about it.
>> > This entire private prayer session I had lasted perhaps 60
>> > seconds, if even that long, and it was over as quickly as it had
>> > begun.
>> >
>> >     So, was I really seeing an actual memory?  It is my opinion,
>> > based upon literally thousands of hours praying with others, that
>> > I indeed was seeing my own birth.  Spiritually speaking, I was
>> > also seeing what Jesus saw.  Is it real?  It is as real as any
>> > other memory.  Can babies have memories this far back?  Doctors
>> > have done studies on groups of people who do, indeed, possess such
>> > early memory events.  In fact, I can prove I had memories as early
>> > as two or three months of age which were confirmed by my mother
>> > many years ago.  In this case, the Holy Spirit went to the filing
>> > cabinet in my brain which holds memories of my birth, pulled out
>> > the one Jesus wanted me to see, and displayed it in my mind.
>> > Jesus then allowed me to see the memory as He saw it unfold.
>> >
>> >     Some people, Christian people, think this type of
>> > intercessory prayer is self hypnosis, or new age meditation, with
>> > a form of mind reprogression employed to create things that never
>> > truly happened.  Then you can use your powers of imagination to
>> > manipulate a better outcome to a traumatic experience you once had
>> > years ago.  Literally, they believe you can change the memory to
>> > feel better and to become void of all pain and trauma.  This is
>> > untrue, naturally thinking, but people are welcome to believe
>> > whatever they wish.
>> >
>> >     So, what was the purpose of all this?  I knew the situation
>> > with the turtle triggered something inside of me but it seemed, on
>> > the surface, ridiculous.  I mean, what does a turtle have to do
>> > with me?  God used a current event to trigger something that
>> > happened to me that occurred over 55 years ago at the moment of my
>> > birth.  Why?  I asked him the same thing just last Sunday night as
>> > I was praying with a lady on the phone about some things that
>> > happened to her when she was 3 and 4 years old.  "Jesus," I said
>> > in my thoughts as I waited for this lady to speak, "why did you
>> > show me my birth?"  Jesus clearly spoke to me in my spirit,
>> > through the Holy Spirit, and said, "I wanted you to see that I was
>> > with you when you were born and that I have been with you since
>> > the beginning.  I wanted you to see the fear that the Enemy tried
>> > to put upon you and to be accessible to him as the Deceiver
>> > throughout the rest of your life.  I wanted you to see that you
>> > were born happy and that I want your entire life to be happy."
>> >
>> >     At this point, I could suggest much more that Jesus spoke to
>> > me about this particular prayer session I conducted with myself,
>> > but what I have said today is hard enough for people to believe so
>> > I won't try and confuse the issue any further.
>> >
>> >     How is this type of prayer conducted?  Stated another way;
>> > How does one practice this form of prayer?  First, although this
>> > form of prayer can eventually become so automatic, it almost
>> > happens without you realizing it at the time, keep in mind that
>> > you may need help at first because there are many ways the Enemy
>> > attempts to keep us from locating the source of the lie, that is,
>> > the memory it is hiding in, and the level of deception the Enemy
>> > uses to keep the lie hidden.  Even after learning these basic
>> > techniques below, you will still, from time to time, need
>> > assistance when unable to locate the original source of pain which
>> > has been triggered by a current experience.
>> >
>> >     Step One.  Focus on the present emotion that is presenting
>> > itself to you at the moment.  It might be fear, confusion, anger,
>> > hate, panic, guilt, anxiety, shame, condemnation, jealousy, a fear
>> > of being trapped, suppressed, held down, or helplessness,
>> > embarrassment, death, suicide, a sense of being powerless, or any
>> > other emotional dynamic.  Whatever emotional feeling stands out
>> > the most at that moment is the one you start praying about.
>> >
>> > Note.  In my experience described by the turtle trapped in his
>> > shell, my presenting emotion was the feeling of helplessness and
>> > being trapped.  That's where I focused my prayer.  The turtle was
>> > the trigger that found the emotion in my mind that needed the
>> > healing.
>> >
>> >     Step Two.  Ask the Holy Spirit to show you what Jesus wants
>> > you to see.  This will generally be memories which will come to
>> > mind.  Allow yourself to look inside each memory and search for
>> > anything which feels wrong.
>> >
>> > Note.  In my testimony of being triggered by the situation with
>> > the turtle, I found one or two memories that seemed likely to be
>> > the problem but I could feel no emotions of fear or helplessness
>> > or the feeling of being trapped in either of those memories.
>> >
>> >     Step Three.  Once you have located a memory which seems to
>> > have that same emotion, ask the Holy Spirit to show you the lie
>> > while focusing on the pain of that memory.
>> >
>> > Note.  In my case, using my birthing memory as an example, the lie
>> > was, "I am trapped.  I'm not going to make it.  I am going to
>> > die."  These have to be lies because I did make it, I am alive,
>> > and I was not trapped.  Thus, what I heard in my mind, or
>> > thoughts, could not have been from God because God never speaks
>> > that way.
>> >
>> >     Step Four.  Once a lie, or lies, has been identified, ask the
>> > Holy Spirit, in the name of the true Lord Jesus Christ, to show
>> > you His truth.  You will either feel it or sense it in your mind
>> > as thoughts coming to you.  You may even, as I do, describe what
>> > you feel, or sense, as a spiritual awareness.
>> >
>> > Note.  Again, using my birthing memory as an example, the truth
>> > was, Jesus said, "You can make it.  I was right there all the
>> > time."  Then eventually, he rejoiced and said, "See?  I said you
>> > could make it."
>> >
>> >     This whole prayer process is much easier to live than it
>> > sounds like but it only happens after a measure of experience or
>> > repeated areas of mind renewal have been experienced.  As I said,
>> > most people need help the first few times because of all the
>> > blockages, pit falls, chuck holes, and dead ends you will
>> > encounter.  It isn't the old axiom, practice makes perfect, but
>> > the revelation of truth that comes from the voice of the Lord.
>> > The automated aspect of this form of prayer is due to the fact you
>> > have learned to hear the voice of the Lord Jesus, that is, the
>> > Holy Spirit, Who dwells within your spirit, and a strangers voice,
>> > that of the Enemy, you reject.  Also, praying with someone else
>> > creates the atmosphere of agreement which Jesus referred to in
>> > Matthew 18:19 and when that is present, the power of intercessory
>> > prayer is spiritually multiplied beyond earthly bounds.  It is
>> > easy to become frustrated when trying this at first, so having a
>> > prayer partner who is familiar with it all is strongly
>> > recommended.
>> >
>> >     Is there any danger in doing this type of prayer?  Of course
>> > not.  There is, however, a great deal of frustration when trying
>> > to do it by yourself until you have experienced enough healing
>> > that you are living this form of prayer rather than practicing it.
>> > I believe that is the true meaning of "Pray without ceasing."  At
>> > the same time, remember that the Enemy does not want you to
>> > discover his lies or the truth because he knows Jesus said that
>> > "You will know the truth and the truth will set you free."
>> > Therefore, he is going to do his best to block and hide and
>> > conceal the lie that is causing the pain.
>> >
>> >     Finally, keep in mind, the way the Enemy speaks to us is
>> > strictly through our emotions, by placing his feelings upon our
>> > feelings, and placing his thoughts upon our thoughts.  He has no
>> > other way of communicating with us.  God speaks the exact same way
>> > to us as His children.  However, the Lord God can also speak to us
>> > through our spirit and that is where the Holy Spirit dwells.
>> >
>> >     If you have any questions, let me know.
>> >
>> >
>> > The Curse That Works Is The One We Believe
>> > WWW.SafePlaceFellowship.com
>> >
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