Hi.
It is precisely the experimentation aspect of DStar that I was looking
at. You know, just trying out something different than the same thing that
I've done for the last 25 years.
73, de Lou K2LKK
At 05:27 PM 10/23/2007 -0600, you wrote:
>narrow FM doesn't have to come first at all.
>Narrow FM used for voice and narrow FM used for digital or basically data
>transfer is something completely different.
>There is no reason we should have to go narrow FM for voice with the
>spectrum we currently have...though with radios like the ts2000 offering
>narrow FM as an easily usable function on the radio we certainly could
>utilize it more often if we begin to need it.
>
>However, there is also no reason we shouldn't embrace digital communications
>like the rest of the communications industry.
>It used to be at one time that hams and amateur operators led the way in
>communications but it seems as though, that as technology advances, and the
>age of most amateurs, they are falling further and further behind in
>accepting newer forms of communications.
>It's not that digital communications in the amateur service is knew or too
>technical, its the acceptance of more hams to use newer forms of
>communication then just the familiar CW, SSB, AM and FM modes, and perhaps a
>little PSK and RTTY thrown in for good measure.
>Why can't D star become a standard? Its because most hams see it as either
>too much bother, too technical or too "new".
>Why is CW a standard on HF? it would seem to me that it has the same
>learning curve and scope of difficulty as figuring out how to use your D
>star radio.
>But, I really believe that due to the aging amateur population, modernistic
>forms of digital communications just won't take off because its too much
>bother and problem to get systems in place to support it.
>Especially in areas with low ham populations...the north east with its
>massive population bass certainly has the guys with technical skills and
>desire to at least experiment with this technology and possibly spark some
>interest...since if there is a system to be used, it makes getting into
>something like D star a whole lot easier then trying to build and entire
>system from scratch.
>And, if there is wide spread interest, the radio makers will respond with
>products to fill that market. Just like they did with SSB and first hybrid,
>then solid state radios back in the 60's.
>73
>Colin, V A6BKX
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:04 PM
>Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>
>
> > I don't think it will take hold in Ham radio though. I really don't.
>Narrow
> > FM hasn't even yet and I'd think that would come first. I know I'm not
>going
> > to spend money on it yet.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Chris Schulte" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> >
> >
> > > It's going to become the wave of the future simply because it cuts down
>on
> > > the radio spectrum. The signal is very narrow, and that's going to
> > > eventually make it take hold. I can see how the oil and gas industry
> > > would
> > > use it very much because of the data capabilities on 1.2 ghz.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:37 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> > >
> > >
> > >> Icom is marketing the D star technology in the commercial radio
> > >> sector...not
> > >> sure if they have always done this, but we recently had an Icom D star
> > >> rep
> > >> from Icom canada attend one of our club meetings. He wasn't there to
> > >> sell
> > >> D
> > >> star to local hams at all, but was attending an oil and gas industry
> > >> conference where he was marketting D star for use in the oil field.
> > >> It does have some fairly significant potential in certain aspects of
> > >> communications in the oil and gas industry. They are always looking
>for
> > >> new
> > >> and better technology in that industry, or even very specific
>technology
> > >> to
> > >> meet a need that may not exist else where.
> > >> So, I suspect it may have a limited survival rate amongst hams, or at
> > >> least
> > >> most hams who aren't as technically savvy as others, but it may not be
>in
> > >> the same boat when it comes to the commercial side.
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >> Colin, V A6BKX
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:56 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> There's absolutely nothing around here, MA/RI area that I know of. As
> > >>> long
> > >>> as only 1 manufacturer on the ham market offers it, I don't think it
> > >>> will
> > >>> have any chance of survival and I don't think anyone else has any
>plans
> > >>> to
> > >>> come out with anything compatible with it. If so, I haven't heard
>about
> > >>> it
> > >>> so I'm sure not going to bother with it.
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:19 AM
> > >>> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> > Hi Lou;
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Their are only a couple of repeaters in the Delaware Valley area.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > I will wait until the cost of the radios come down.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > It's probably a lot like PL tones when you had to buy the board to
>go
> > >> into
> > >>> > the radio.
> > >>> >
> > >>> > 73 De Anthony W2AJV
> > >>> > [log in to unmask]
> > >>> > ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
> > >>> >
> > >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> > From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >>> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:05 PM
> > >>> > Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >> Hi.
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Chris's message raises a point of curiosity for me. I have been
> > >> hearing
> > >>> >> murmurings about DStar, but don't know much about it. Is anyone
>here
> > >>> >> using
> > >>> >> it, or even ever observed it being used?
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> 73, de Lou K2LKK
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >>
> > >>> >> Louis Kim Kline
> > >>> >> A.R.S. K2LKK
> > >>> >> Home e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > >>> >> Work e-mail: [log in to unmask]
> > >>> >> Work Telephone: (585) 697-5740
> > >>> >>
> > >>>
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