I wasn't saying narrow FM should come first, I just would think it would. I
don't think Dstar will take off because it's too expensive right now and so
far Icom is the only one making ham gear for it that I know of and I have
heard nothing about anyone else coming out with it. It may take off some day
but it's probably a long way off if at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
> narrow FM doesn't have to come first at all.
> Narrow FM used for voice and narrow FM used for digital or basically data
> transfer is something completely different.
> There is no reason we should have to go narrow FM for voice with the
> spectrum we currently have...though with radios like the ts2000 offering
> narrow FM as an easily usable function on the radio we certainly could
> utilize it more often if we begin to need it.
>
> However, there is also no reason we shouldn't embrace digital
> communications
> like the rest of the communications industry.
> It used to be at one time that hams and amateur operators led the way in
> communications but it seems as though, that as technology advances, and
> the
> age of most amateurs, they are falling further and further behind in
> accepting newer forms of communications.
> It's not that digital communications in the amateur service is knew or too
> technical, its the acceptance of more hams to use newer forms of
> communication then just the familiar CW, SSB, AM and FM modes, and perhaps
> a
> little PSK and RTTY thrown in for good measure.
> Why can't D star become a standard? Its because most hams see it as
> either
> too much bother, too technical or too "new".
> Why is CW a standard on HF? it would seem to me that it has the same
> learning curve and scope of difficulty as figuring out how to use your D
> star radio.
> But, I really believe that due to the aging amateur population,
> modernistic
> forms of digital communications just won't take off because its too much
> bother and problem to get systems in place to support it.
> Especially in areas with low ham populations...the north east with its
> massive population bass certainly has the guys with technical skills and
> desire to at least experiment with this technology and possibly spark some
> interest...since if there is a system to be used, it makes getting into
> something like D star a whole lot easier then trying to build and entire
> system from scratch.
> And, if there is wide spread interest, the radio makers will respond with
> products to fill that market. Just like they did with SSB and first
> hybrid,
> then solid state radios back in the 60's.
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>
>
>> I don't think it will take hold in Ham radio though. I really don't.
> Narrow
>> FM hasn't even yet and I'd think that would come first. I know I'm not
> going
>> to spend money on it yet.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Schulte" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>>
>>
>> > It's going to become the wave of the future simply because it cuts down
> on
>> > the radio spectrum. The signal is very narrow, and that's going to
>> > eventually make it take hold. I can see how the oil and gas industry
>> > would
>> > use it very much because of the data capabilities on 1.2 ghz.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:37 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>> >
>> >
>> >> Icom is marketing the D star technology in the commercial radio
>> >> sector...not
>> >> sure if they have always done this, but we recently had an Icom D star
>> >> rep
>> >> from Icom canada attend one of our club meetings. He wasn't there to
>> >> sell
>> >> D
>> >> star to local hams at all, but was attending an oil and gas industry
>> >> conference where he was marketting D star for use in the oil field.
>> >> It does have some fairly significant potential in certain aspects of
>> >> communications in the oil and gas industry. They are always looking
> for
>> >> new
>> >> and better technology in that industry, or even very specific
> technology
>> >> to
>> >> meet a need that may not exist else where.
>> >> So, I suspect it may have a limited survival rate amongst hams, or at
>> >> least
>> >> most hams who aren't as technically savvy as others, but it may not be
> in
>> >> the same boat when it comes to the commercial side.
>> >>
>> >> 73
>> >> Colin, V A6BKX
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 5:56 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> There's absolutely nothing around here, MA/RI area that I know of. As
>> >>> long
>> >>> as only 1 manufacturer on the ham market offers it, I don't think it
>> >>> will
>> >>> have any chance of survival and I don't think anyone else has any
> plans
>> >>> to
>> >>> come out with anything compatible with it. If so, I haven't heard
> about
>> >>> it
>> >>> so I'm sure not going to bother with it.
>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:19 AM
>> >>> Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> > Hi Lou;
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Their are only a couple of repeaters in the Delaware Valley area.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I will wait until the cost of the radios come down.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > It's probably a lot like PL tones when you had to buy the board to
> go
>> >> into
>> >>> > the radio.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > 73 De Anthony W2AJV
>> >>> > [log in to unmask]
>> >>> > ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
>> >>> >
>> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >>> > From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >>> > Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 9:05 PM
>> >>> > Subject: Re: Easy HT to Use
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >> Hi.
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Chris's message raises a point of curiosity for me. I have been
>> >> hearing
>> >>> >> murmurings about DStar, but don't know much about it. Is anyone
> here
>> >>> >> using
>> >>> >> it, or even ever observed it being used?
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >>
>> >>> >> Louis Kim Kline
>> >>> >> A.R.S. K2LKK
>> >>> >> Home e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> >>> >> Work e-mail: [log in to unmask]
>> >>> >> Work Telephone: (585) 697-5740
>> >>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>
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