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Lou Kline <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:22:23 -0400
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Hi.

Yes, it could.  I might be inclined to look at a different antenna under 
those conditions.

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 09:12 PM 7/12/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi;
>I plan to run about 500 watts with a tuner.  Should this give me a capacitor
>problem?
>
>I suspected the party at gap that I was talking with was simplifying things
>a bit.  My project is to find some local folks willing to help install.  I
>was trying to get some idea if I could manage with the clueless but willing
>or if I need to hold out for real talent which is much harder to find.
>It would be more encouraging if when you spoke to manufacturers they gave
>you the real story.  I was told that the antenna was totally pre-tuned just
>put it together per the predrilled holes and away you go.  I knew that
>sounded far to good to be true.
>Richard
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Lou Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 5:48 PM
>Subject: Re: gap questions
>
>
>Hi.
>
>Basically, it is a S O B to tune on 40 meters, but everything else works
>fine.  That has been my experience with it.  You wouldn't need a tuner if 2
>to 1 SWRs are OK with you, but it is tough to get it below that on the CW
>portion.  It looks better in the phone portion.  If I still had my old
>Kenwood TS520S, I wouldn't think twice about it, but with the newer stuff,
>I'd rather tune some of that SWR out.  True the radio is probably well
>enough protected that no damage is going to occur, but that is mostly
>because it starts rolling back the power so you get the double
>whamie.  Also, keep in mind that on 80 meters, the window that is below the
>2:1 points is about 50 KHz wide, and where it centers is governed by the
>capacitor that is in the top of the band.  If you let the manufacturers
>know where you plan to operate on 80, they can sell you a capacitor that
>will center the SWR in that range.
>
>I had a discussion with tech support about the tuner issue.  They don't
>encourage the use of antenna tuners because using them with high powered
>stations can cause the afore mentioned capacitor to puncture, rendering the
>antenna unusable on all bands.  He did let on that although GAP doesn't
>encourage it, you shouldn't run into a problem at the 100 watt power level.
>
>73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
>
>At 05:49 PM 7/12/2007 -0500, you wrote:
> >Hi;
> >The key words might be "set up properly".  Supposedly the holes are all
> >predrilled and you can't go wrong, no need for an analyzer etc.  I suspect
> >if it sounds to good to be true it just might be.  Its the getting it set
> >up
> >properly that I'm investigating.
> >Richard
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 2:20 PM
> >Subject: Re: gap questions
> >
> >
> >When you first set up the gap, you have to tune for each band.  That is, if
> >its not already set properly.
> >So, i gather from the discussions on this list and others, that the gap on
> >40 meters just takes a little more manual tweaking of the antenna, compared
> >to other bands where following the instructions when first putting it
> >together is good enough.
> >The antenna, once set up properly, does not require an antenna tuner to
> >function on the bands it is designed for.
> >73
> >Colin, V A6BKX
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Richard Fiorello" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 1:00 PM
> >Subject: gap questions
> >
> >
> > > Hi;
> > > I suspect we may have been through some of this territory before but I
> >still
> > > have a question or two.  I had a brief chat with our friends at gap.
> > > They
> > > tell me that the gap Titan is pretuned and there is no tuning necessary
> >even
> > > for 80 meters.  I thought someone here said that 40 meters took some
> > > work
> >to
> > > tune?  Any clarification would be helpful.
> > > Richard
> > >
> > >
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>
>Louis Kim Kline
>A.R.S. K2LKK
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>Work Telephone:  (585) 697-5753
>
>
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Louis Kim Kline
A.R.S. K2LKK
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