Hi.
There seems to be an effort in the industry to move to using less deviation
on FM, which is ok if you have receivers that are designed for that,
otherwise you get low audio. I'm finding that most new radios exhibit low
audio, and the cause generally seems to be about 2.5 KHz deviation.
73, de Lou K2LKK
At 11:02 PM 12/30/2007 -0500, you wrote:
>John,
>
>I think the audio on most handhelds is adjusted to compensate for ambient
>noise from a mobile environment. They expect the operator to yell into the
>mic anyway, so they just turn down the gain.
>
>Steve
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 19:55
>Subject: Re: 2 meter : 70 cemtimeter radio
>
>
> >i don't have an thF6A, I have just heard lots of them on the air and they
> > almost always have less then average tx audio...not super low, probably
> > shows up decent on a
> > scope, but invariably when they have some noise behind from a poor signal,
> > the audio is bad enough that it makes it very difficult to understand the
> > voice.
> > Lots of HT's are like that, i just find that any icom i've ever had has
> > never had that problem, in fact, you always have to keep at least 3 inches
> > away to keep from distorting.
> > With the f6, you have to keep it within an inch to get good results and
> > always talk in a normal to slightly above normal voice.
> > but like you said, your milage may vary in all things hi hi.
> > 73
> > Colin, V A6BKX
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 5:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: 2 meter : 70 cemtimeter radio
> >
> >
> >> I don't know why your f6 has low audio. Mine does not. There were some
> >> Kenwood came out with that had glue over the mike, perhaps you got one
> >> of those. I've had mine on a service monitor and it has plenty of xmit
> >> audio. I tried running the t90 on a quarter wave antenna on the care,
> >> just once. Got so much intermod it was totally worthless. AS the old
> >> saying goes, your mileage may vary.
> >> 73s
> >> Butch Bussen
> >> wa0vjr
> >>
> >> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Colin McDonald
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > your right about the better audio from the ICT90.
> >> > Since it is a handheld, low power with a small inefficient antenna, the
> >> > signal from an HT is often less then strong or clear into a repeater,
> > and
> >> > with the THF6A, with its stock extremely low TX audio, they're very
> >> > hard
> > to
> >> > hear in noisy conditions. the ict90 is loud and crisp in
> > comparison...not
> >> > sure about receive audio though.
> >> > The ICT90 tends to be very lacking in low mid and low end receive audio
> > and
> >> > thus is a bit difficult to hear in noisy vehicle environments such as
> >> > on
> > the
> >> > freeway or on the street corner...the white/grey noise from cars going
> > by
> >> > sort of blanks out the high pitched white sounding receive from the
> > internal
> >> > speaker.
> >> > I know there is a fix for the audio on the thf6a's, which involves
> > getting
> >> > into the service menu through a button located on the inside of the
> > radio
> >> > under the keypad or something...
> >> > 73
> >> > Colin, V A6BKX
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 3:34 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: 2 meter : 70 cemtimeter radio
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> Having both HT's you mentioned, I have to say I like the THF6A better
> > than
> >> >> the T90A though any Kenwood is accessible. Icom isn't horrible, but
> >> >> the
> >> > T90A
> >> >> is the most accessible which is why I have mine and keep it around.
> > Most
> >> >> Icom radios I've used are manageable but the Kenwoods are more so. I
> > like
> >> >> the audio out of the Icoms better though
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: "Butch Bussen" <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2007 4:04 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: 2 meter : 70 cemtimeter radio
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Are you looking for an ht or mobile? For an ht I'd recommend the
> >> >>> Kenwood th-f6, 2m, 220 and 440. For a mobile, the Kenwood tm-v71a.
> >> >>> Others may prefer the Icom t90, but I own both and much prefer the
> >> >>> Kenwood.
> >> >>> 73s
> >> >>> Butch Bussen
> >> >>> wa0vjr
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sun, 30 Dec 2007, Walt Sebastian wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>> Ok, I think my sister gave away my standard tribander. So, now I am
> > in
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> market for a duel bander radio. What would be the easiest to use
> > with
> >> >>>> the
> >> >>>> two bands. If necessary, I will get two separate radios if that is
> >> >>>> better.
> >> >>>> 73
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Walt
> >> >>>> WA4QXT
> >> >>>> New London CT
> >> >>>> [log in to unmask]
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>
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