Now that is some interesting information about the old buzzard.  Thanks for
looking it up.

Phil.



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Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: Insult to compliment


> Phil,
>
> No fooling an old Bible hand as yoruself lol. You are right as I look
> further the word "before God" means against as seen below. I guess he was
> Noah's great grandson not grandson too.
> NIMROD
> NIMROD
> Cush's son or descendant, Ham's grandson (Gen 10:8). "Nimrod began to be a
> mighty one in the earth," i.e. he was the first of Noah's descendants who
> became renowned for bold and daring deeds, the Septuagint "giant" (compare
> Gen 6:4,13; Isa 13:3). "He was a mighty hunter before Jehovah," so that it
> passed into a proverb or the refrain of ballads in describing hunters and
> warriors, "even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before Jehovah." Not a mere
> Hebrew superlative, but as in Gen 27:7 "bless thee before Jehovah," i.e.
as
> in His presence, Ps 56:13 "walk before God." Septuagint translated
"against
> Jehovah"; so in Num 16:2 lipneey (OT:6440), "before," means opposition.
The
> Hebrew name Nimrod means "let us rebel," given by his contemporaries to
> Nimrod as one who ever had in his mouth such words to stir up his band to
> rebellion. Nimrod subverted the existing patriarchal order of society by
> setting up a chieftainship based on personal valor and maintained by
> aggression.
> The chase is an image of war and a training for it. The increase of
> ferocious beasts after the flood and Nimrod's success in destroying them
> soon gathered a band to him. From being a hunter of beasts he became a
> hunter of men. "In defiance of Jehovah," as virtually" before Jehovah"
> (Prov 15:11) means, Nimrod, a Hamite intruded into Shem's portion,
> violently set up an empire of conquest, beginning with Babel, ever after
> the symbol of the world power in its hostility to God. From that land he
> went forth to Asshur and builded Nineveh. The later Babylonians spoke
> Semitic, but the oldest inscriptions are Turanian or Cushite. Tradition
> points to Babylon's Cushite origin by making Belus son of Poseidon (the
> sea) and Libya (Ethiopia): Diodorus Siculus i. 28. Oannes the fish god,
> Babylon's civilizer, rose out of the Red Sea (Syncellus, Chronog. 28).
> "Cush" appears in the Babylonian names Cissia, Cuthah, Chuzistan
(Susiana).
> Babylon's earliest alphabet in oldest inscriptions resembles that of Egypt
> and Ethiopia; common words occur, as Mirikh, the Meroe of Ethiopia, the
> Mars of Babylon. Though Arabic is Semitic, the Mahras' language in
southern
> Arabia is non-Semitic, and is the modern representative of the ancient
> Himyaric whose empire dates as far back as 1750 B.C. The Mahras is akin to
> the Abyssinian Galla language, representing the Cushite or Ethiopic of
old;
> and the primitive Babylonian Sir H. Rawlinson from inscriptions decides to
> resemble both. The writing too is pictorial, as in the earliest ages of
> Egypt. The Egyptian and Ethiopic hyk (in hyk-sos, the shepherd kings), a
> "king," in Babylonian and Susianian is khak. "Tyrhak" is common to the
> royal lists of Susiana and Ethiopia, as "Nimrod" is to those of Babylon
and
> Egypt. Ra is the Cushite supreme god of Babylon as Ra is the sun god in
> Egypt. (See BABEL).
> Nimrod was the Bel, Belus, or Baal, i.e. lord of Babel, its founder.
> Worshipped (as the monuments testify) as Bilu Nipra or Bel Nimrod, i.e,
the
> god of the chase; the Talmudical Nopher, now Niffer. Josephus (Ant. 1:4)
> and the tortures represent him as building, in defiance of Jehovah, the
> Babel tower. If so (which his rebellious character makes likely) he
> abandoned Babel for a time after the miraculous confusion of tongues, and
> went and founded Nineveh. Eastern tradition pictures him a heaven-storming
> giant chained by God, among the constellations, as Orion, Hebrew Keciyl
> (OT:3685), "fool" or "wicked." Sargon in an inscription says: "350 kings
of
> Assyria hunted the people of Bilu-Nipru"; probably = the Babylon of
Nimrod,
> nipru meaning hunter, another form of Nebrod which is the Septuagint form
> of Nimrod. His going to Assyria (Gen 10:10-12) accords with Micah's
> designating Assyria "the hind of Nimrod" (Mic 5:6). Also his name appears
> in the palace mound of Nimrud. The fourfold group of cities which Nimrod
> founded in Babylonia answer to the fourfold group in Assyria. So Kiprit
> Arba, "king of the four races," is an early title of the first monarchs of
> Babylon; Chedorlaomer appears at the head of four peoples; "king of the
> four regions" occurs in Nineveh inscriptions too; after Sargon's days four
> cities had the pre-eminence (Rawlinson, 1:435,438,447).
> (from Fausset's Bible Dictionary, Electronic Database Copyright (c)1998 by
> Biblesoft)
>
>
> At 11:06 AM 2/11/2007, you wrote:
>
> >I guess they get that from the Biblical record that one of the meanings
of
> >Minrod is rebellion and that he began building his city near Babylon and
he
> >built the tower of Babel if I'm reading this right.  One sermon I heard
many
> >years ago, as I recall now, is that what Nimrod hunted was souls but if
> >you've got more, let me know.  This is interesting.
> >
> >Phil.
>
>
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