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That's  probably why she asked me. That is pretty acceptable, it just took 
me by surprise for some reason. I don't take to well to folks asking my 
wife "What does he want  to drink?" lol. They usually get the answer... 
"Ask him, he's sitting right there" lol.

Brad
At 08:22 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote:

>Although I have them cut my meat fr me and bring it out for me.  Not that 
>I can't, but it's cumbersome to me at times to have to cut it in public.
>----- Original Message ----- From: "MV" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2007 9:16 PM
>Subject: Re: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>
>
>>I use to have a worship/music leader who was very cool about my blindness,
>>and just treated me like anyone else and I think found it odd others
>>sometimes didn't. contrary to that, I use to have a fellow worship team
>>member sort of act a little higher than I, we were both guitar
>>pickers/singers, although he led services at this church sometimes and I
>>"only" did special music hahaha. He'd always say stuff like "Hi Brad! This
>>is Reese talking!" Ummm yah Hi Reese, was my usual reply.One day I was
>>sitting waiting for service to start and I must have been less patient and
>>he said something to me and forgot to do his trumpeting identification
>>announcement.  I acknowledged him by name and whatever else was needed to
>>answer him. He said "Wow!" Hahaha, you're pretty good with voices aren't
>>you?" I said... "Yeah. Well, pretty much, although I have trouble doing
>>John Wayne sometimes!" He didn't say a word, but my music director was
>>walking by about the time I smarted off and he got a big chuckle out of
>>that. For the most part, I do understand folks. We get pelted at times with
>>this stuff and it is mostly from different people so I try to exercise
>>patience. but when it is from the same people and you've proven you are not
>>an idiot, I will tend to turn on the lessons *smile*. I had a waitress ask
>>if I wanted my meat cut up for me one day. I looked a bit dumbfounded but
>>she must have gotten that from someone asking I don't know if she'd thought
>>of that on her own.
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>>Brad
>>
>>
>>At 07:39 PM 2/10/2007, you wrote:
>>
>>>Agreed John.  However, it's kind of fun to look at and osme of them are
>>>not bad.
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:46 PM
>>>Subject: Re: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>>
>>>
>>>>Although I understand the humor and frustrations, I don't agree wit the
>>>>approach.  Our speech should always be with grace, seasoned with salt.
>>>>
>>>>earlier, JULIE MELTON, wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Lyn,
>>>>>
>>>>>Hahahahahahahahah! I love it!  WHen dealing with sighted folks, a little
>>>>>humor often helps.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>JulieMelton
>>>>>visit me at
>>>>>www.heart-and-music.com
>>>>>or subscribe to my podcast at
>>>>>http://feed.feedburner.com/hmradio
>>>>>Keep smiling!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Lyn Latham <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>Reply-To: The Electronic Church <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>Subject: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>>>>>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 11:06:18 -0500
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hey, I wanted to share this with all of you.  It's fantastic.  If
>>>>>>anyone knows either Greg Braton or Duncan Holmes, you can see this
>>>>>>being something they would know about.  Have fun.
>>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>From: Duncan Holmes
>>>>>>To: gil tolan
>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2007 9:13 AM
>>>>>>Subject: A New Twist on Handling Sightlings; Greg Brayton Sent This
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I really like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I'm blind, but there's no need to talk to my dog
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > By IAN HAMILTON
>>>>>> > The Herald, Scotland (UK), February 06, 2007
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I'm utterly exhausted with people constantly asking how I became >
>>>>>>blind.
>>>>>> > Considering that I'm 42, and blind since birth, it could be
>>>>>>imagined > that
>>>>>> > by
>>>>>> > now I would be familiar with this question.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On the contrary, if anything I'm getting more impatient with the
>>>>>>same > old
>>>>>> > questions day after day. "Have you been blind all your life?" To
>>>>>>this > I
>>>>>> > always respond: "Not yet".
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Your hearing must be so much better than mine?" Answer: "Pardon?" >
>>>>>>"That's
>>>>>> > a
>>>>>> > lovely Labrador you have there." Answer: "Labrador? My dog is a >
>>>>>>Shepherd."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Not original answers, but they always make me and Moss, my black >
>>>>>>Labrador,
>>>>>> > chuckle.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It always happens when I'm trapped and unable to escape. When I'm 
>>>>>> on > a
>>>>>> > bus,
>>>>>> > train or taxi. People are naturally curious; I understand this.
>>>>>>But > they
>>>>>> > can't resist going that little bit too far if you show any 
>>>>>> glimpse > of
>>>>>> > being
>>>>>> > generous with your responses.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "Couldn't you get an operation to get your sight back?" Answer: 
>>>>>> "No! > I
>>>>>> > like
>>>>>> > walking into bus stops."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "My auntie was blind. She had to stay in bed. You're so brave
>>>>>>going > out
>>>>>> > and
>>>>>> > about." Staying in bed. Umm, now there's an idea. That was one smart
>>>>>> > auntie.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "How do you find your mouth when you eat?" Answer: "In the same
>>>>>>way > you
>>>>>> > find
>>>>>> > your bum when you wipe it."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > "If I was blind I would have to kill myself." Answer: "Why wait?"
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > These normal questions are the reason I've come up with a
>>>>>>fantastic > plan.
>>>>>> > For years, various organisations have been providing Blind Awareness
>>>>>> > Workshops. In fact, I've had to deliver a few. These workshops
>>>>>>show > the
>>>>>> > public how they should respond if they encounter a blind person. >
>>>>>>Topics
>>>>>> > such
>>>>>> > as, don't go up and shout at blind people, they are not deaf.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ASK, if they want to cross the road? DON'T drag them across the
>>>>>>road > by
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > ears. When you are giving directions, DON'T waggle your finger 
>>>>>> in > some
>>>>>> > vague
>>>>>> > direction and say: "It's just over there next to the post office.
>>>>>>SEE, > you
>>>>>> > can't miss it." Wanna bet?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Many years ago I was waiting for a bus in Union Street in Glasgow, >
>>>>>>when
>>>>>> > two
>>>>>> > little old ladies decided to lift me, from behind, on to the 
>>>>>> bus. > They
>>>>>> > proceeded to push, heave and shove me. Now, I know I'm not known
>>>>>>for > my
>>>>>> > speed, but I was heading in the right direction of the door under
>>>>>>my > own
>>>>>> > propulsion. You won't be surprised to hear that they failed > 
>>>>>> miserably.
>>>>>> > After
>>>>>> > all, I'm 13 stone and 6ft. To get me safely aboard they caused > 
>>>>>> mayhem:
>>>>>> > pushing mothers and toddlers aside to get to their prey. The
>>>>>>driver > had to
>>>>>> > leave his cab to untangle buggies, shopping and various limbs and >
>>>>>>walking
>>>>>> > sticks.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I wonder if the ladies survived that day. I know I'm scared.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I've decided to call my new training course The Blind Person's
>>>>>>Guide > to
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > General Public. Topics such as dealing with people who are giving
>>>>>> > directions
>>>>>> > to my dog while ignoring me. This did happen in Glasgow's Central >
>>>>>>Station
>>>>>> > by
>>>>>> > a member of the railway police. I couldn't believe it. Was he 
>>>>>> having > a
>>>>>> > laugh? No, he really was under the misapprehension that my dog
>>>>>>knew > what
>>>>>> > he
>>>>>> > was on about. Not once did he refer to me at all. Bizarre behaviour!
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > My course will teach blind people how to cope when faced with this >
>>>>>>kind of
>>>>>> > attitude. When people come up and say: "You are a lovely boy" - when
>>>>>> > talking
>>>>>> > to the dog. Say, "Thank you very much but I'm spoken for."
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Another tip is always to have a pair of headphones in your pocket.
>>>>>>It > is
>>>>>> > awful to be trapped on a train with someone going through all
>>>>>>their > fears
>>>>>> > and traumas about being blind. Just say that you are going to
>>>>>>listen > to an
>>>>>> > audio book. Pop on the headphones and put the jack in your pocket. >
>>>>>>They'll
>>>>>> > never know the difference.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > When you get caught by someone asking silly questions, the answer
>>>>>>is > to
>>>>>> > turn
>>>>>> > the conversation round at the first opportunity. The one main >
>>>>>>conversation
>>>>>> > that everyone likes to talk about is themselves.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Now this doesn't just apply to us blindies - the technique can be
>>>>>>used > by
>>>>>> > everyone. Let me give you an example. I was travelling on the > 
>>>>>> Glasgow
>>>>>> > Underground. Sitting opposite was a woman who decided to
>>>>>>interrogate > me
>>>>>> > about my then German Shepherd guide dog. "What's its name?" The >
>>>>>>following
>>>>>> > questions took that kind of line. Then she started to get a little >
>>>>>>more
>>>>>> > probing. "So how did you lose your sight?"
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Now in the correct circumstance that is a perfectly reasonable >
>>>>>>question.
>>>>>> > However, not on the underground when surrounded by ear-wigging >
>>>>>>passengers.
>>>>>> > I
>>>>>> > had a number of options. One is telling her to mind her own
>>>>>>business > (or
>>>>>> > words to that effect). I took a different tack. This was the first >
>>>>>>time I
>>>>>> > had put the technique into action.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > It worked a treat.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I ignored her question. Then I asked her some questions of my own, >
>>>>>>such
>>>>>> > as,
>>>>>> > "Where are you off to today?". By the time she got off three stops >
>>>>>>later,
>>>>>> > I
>>>>>> > knew that she had just broken up with her boyfriend, she was
>>>>>>looking > for a
>>>>>> > flat and was thinking of moving south again! But she left the tube >
>>>>>>feeling
>>>>>> > happy. I hadn't been rude, and the only thing she found out about
>>>>>>me > was
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > name and age of my dog.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > A good result, I would say. I'm not a reporter for nothing.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Ian Hamilton reports on disability issues for BBC Scotland.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/features/display.var.1173810.0.0.php
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>John
>>>>
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