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VIRGIE UNDERWOOD <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 11 Jul 2007 20:21:21 -0400
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Well Brad,
You did a good job and I wanted to say thanks for your time and effort. 
Some of us are hard headed you know.

Virgie and lady Hoshi
doing business at

www.vunderwood.ktostemtech.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Wisdom Wisbanger


> Virgie,
>
> Reading Proverbs 3 you'll see all I did was just be a Parrot with good 
> hearing and a beak  that can repeat and form words ;:. Or in this case 
> feet that can type. You can't go wrong quoting God's word :). Wisdom is 
> such a wide and varied thing, no wonder we have 31 chapters dedicated to 
> its quick reference. Lots to learn and with wisdom as the ammo, our lives 
> are like a moving target.
>
> Brad
>
> At 11:01 AM 7/9/2007, you wrote:
>>Hey Brad,
>>You are on a roll!  Another awesome post, I appreciate the way you put it 
>>all together.
>>
>>Virgie and lady Hoshi
>>doing business at
>>
>>www.vunderwood.ktostemtech.com
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "B Dunse" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 9:58 AM
>>Subject: Wisdom Wisbanger
>>
>>
>>>Reading this morning I originally was drawn to the reward of sweet sleep 
>>>and no fear of the enemy suddenly coming upon us and wanted to draw 
>>>attention to that but so much more is offered. What then are the rewards 
>>>of wisdom? As you know parts of God's word are metaphorical and others 
>>>are literal. For instance when God talks about wisdom calling out in the 
>>>streets and that she's waiting at the gate of the city and so forth, well 
>>>there isn't  really a woman thousands of years old who goes by  the name 
>>>of Wisdom standing at the city limits of every city in the world. So it 
>>>is a metaphor showing God's wisdom is everywhere, in every situation, and 
>>>we need only look and listen for it, and of course follow it. There are 
>>>times however when God says things like do not reprove a scorner or you 
>>>will receive disgrace. We know that is a literal statement. He gives us 
>>>the ability to discern metaphor from literal if we only ask, I know this 
>>>because His Word says so and personal experience has proven it to me. So 
>>>knowing that information what then are the benefits of wisdom? And by 
>>>wisdom, it is not intended to mean our own wisdom, that is our own 
>>>thoughts grounded in our own devices and interests, but that of God's 
>>>wisdom instilled in us and we then use it.  What then can we look with 
>>>anticipation and graceful expectation to receive from finding, seeking 
>>>and using God's wisdom?
>>>
>>>If you were to hear wisdom being advertised in an infomercial on TV 
>>>today, it might sound something like this...
>>>
>>>"Today we're offering a special price on our Wisdom Whizbanger! We're 
>>>really out doing ourselves this time folks, never before have we offered 
>>>such a deal. If you order today here's what you will get!! Extended life! 
>>>That's right folks we literally can extend your life by not only days but 
>>>years! And what good would an extended life be if it was a life filled 
>>>with fear and strife? So we're also tossing in a life of peace. That's 
>>>right. Peace. Not only will you be able to live longer but you will live 
>>>longer, with more peace as well. And that's not all. If you order today 
>>>at this special offer you will also receive the ability to enjoy favor 
>>>with God your creator as well as your fellow man! I know, I know many 
>>>have asked us how we can afford to be so generous but we can't believe it 
>>>either! We must be poor business people to be offering all of this. But. 
>>>I want to tell you there's more! Yes more. If you call now while our 
>>>operators are standing by we will toss in not one, not two, but three, 
>>>yes three additional gifts for ordering today. Along with a long 
>>>peaceable life of favor with god and man you will also receive wealth, 
>>>riches and honor! We've really  gone over the edge this time folks, we 
>>>can't believe it ourselves! Now if you... wait a minute. I'm getting a 
>>>call from our CEO... please excuse me for just one second. 'Yes Charlie 
>>>what can I do for you? You kidding! Are you serious! They are not going 
>>>to believe this, are you sure about this? Well, OK then. Thanks I'll tell 
>>>them'. Sorry for the interruption folks but you won't believe this, that 
>>>was our CEO on the phone and, someone hit me so I know I'm not dreaming 
>>>because not only are we offering a long peaceable life complete with 
>>>favor of God and man along with wealth, riches and honor... I can't 
>>>believe he's doing this... my CEO just instructed me that for those  who 
>>>order right now you will receive a life of straight paths, correction by 
>>>a loving Father and that's not all you also will receive..."
>>>
>>>OK, OK. Enough with the infomercial bit :) I think you get the hint. As 
>>>cheesy as that staged infomercial was, it yet carries truth in what god 
>>>will give us by seeking wisdom. One very important thing I didn't include 
>>>in the bit was this...
>>>
>>>Keep sound wisdom and discretion, so they will be life to your soul and 
>>>adornment to your neck. Then you will walk in your way securely and your 
>>>foot will not stumble. When you lie down, you will not be afraid; when 
>>>you lie down, your sleep will be sweet. Do not be afraid of sudden fear 
>>>nor of the onslaught of the wicked when it comes; For the LORD will be 
>>>your confidence and will keep your foot from being caught.
>>>
>>>So if God's Word can be taken literal we know that seeking and obtaining 
>>>wisdom and understanding, we know then that we can be secure, confident 
>>>and sleep a sweet sleep without fear and interruption. The gift of wisdom 
>>>is salvation, it is there for the taking, we only need to decide to grasp 
>>>on to what has already been given us and reap the rewards of the offer. 
>>>One difference between salvation and wisdom is there are times in life 
>>>when  we need to decide to apply wisdom. In salvation it is a gift in 
>>>which we only choose to grasp on to and the Lord does the saving. With 
>>>wisdom, we grasp on to the precepts in our given situations and yes God 
>>>does the rewarding or sees to it that we do have favor with Himself and 
>>>man that we do have riches, wealth, peace and all wisdom promises in His 
>>>Word. But we do need to decide to use it, to grasp on, to apply it to our 
>>>lives, to hold our situations  up to the light of God through His gift of 
>>>wisdom, knowledge and understanding. Imagine if you told your son to run 
>>>to the grocery store and get a loaf of bread. He then asks well how do I 
>>>get there. So you give him some written instructions. He runs and gets 
>>>the bread then runs off doing whatever. Then you ask him to run to the 
>>>same store and get some milk. He asks again how to get there.  So you 
>>>point out that you gave him written instructions. "Oh yeah, I forgot" he 
>>>says.  Goes off, comes back with the milk and goes about his business. 
>>>Later you ask him to get some eggs from the store, and again he asks how 
>>>to get there. Soon it would get a bit irritating would it not?  We would 
>>>wonder why isn't he using his knowledge of what I gave him instead of 
>>>continually asking me over and over how to get there. Years ago I was 
>>>being counseled by a wise man of God with some great insight and 
>>>application of God's Word and I was just learning how to apply God's word 
>>>to my life. He said seeking God  in prayer for things in life, for 
>>>direction is of course needed but praying about whether to  put salad 
>>>forks out with the meal is just irritating and not necessary. Obviously 
>>>he was exaggerating to make the point that some things we have been given 
>>>a brain, as well wisdom to use as a team towards our situations in life. 
>>>I'll end with a precept which is kind of a joke at the same time. A 
>>>pastor once gave this sermon and he did a wonderful job of it. Folks came 
>>>to him after the service, shook his hand vigorously and said how 
>>>wonderful it was and all that and he smiled calmly and said thank you. 
>>>The following Sunday the pastor gave the same sermon. Folks cordially 
>>>smiled, yawned  and nodded as he gave the sermon and when he was done 
>>>they again said how nice it was, shook hands with a slightly looser grip 
>>>this time,  and smiled with a bit of forced lips. The next Sunday the 
>>>pastor gave the very same sermon. Well the elders began to wonder if 
>>>there wasn't something wrong with the pastor. One more week went by and 
>>>dang nabit if he didn't do it yet again. Well finally the elders took the 
>>>pastor aside after the service and asked him, "Umm. Pastor? Umm. are you 
>>>aware you've given the same exact sermon, uh, several weeks in a row 
>>>now?"
>>>
>>>He replied. "Yes I know I have. And I'm going to keep giving it until you 
>>>folks begin to actually do it".
>>>
>>>I read one of the articles  on a link Phil gave us to look at from George 
>>>Muller I think was his name. I really recommend the article which talks 
>>>about reading the Word of God and not so much man's books. That is  not 
>>>to say teachings, encouragements and etc. are not helpful, but it is 
>>>God's Word that can teach itself if you dig in and that ought be the 
>>>stable of your instructional diet. Nothing replaces His Word.
>>>
>>>Brad 

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