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today i got a big postcard about "your cops vote"... and it made me mad, because they weren't just saying vote this way on safety/crime 
 issues; and i was thing; WTF? Why on earth would i want to vote the way cops vote??  Why are cops telling me to vote against gay marriage? 
It's not a crime to be gay.  personally, I think it's biolgical.  I read an article that they tested different people sweat, and only gay men liked the sweat of other gay men, and i found that interesting. A long time ago, a lesbian friend told me she took chinese herbs for a while, and she says they made her horny for men... A union of two people who love each other should not be a threat to straight people.

I don't vote strictly democratic, I also won't vote all this way or that way. I make the effort to read calif's endless voters pamphlet, 
and I choose which props (sometimes as many as 25 propositions!)  make sense to me. In local races, I vote for small businesspeople and if they happen to be minoritys that's fine. I tend to not vote for career politicians after a certain number of years, because the system tends to corrupt them. Fr the judicial seats, I read what each person has said, I look at where they've been working, and then I decide whether i want to vote for a man or woman, or a Hispanic or other minority if they are otherwise qualified. 

Mag 
 
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From: KE Cleveland <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 12:58:53 PM
Subject: Re: Palin's record on special needs kids is mixed

Anthony, I'm a "single-issue" voter, too (abortion is not my top issue,
though it's up there).  With most candidates (certainly not all) you can
still gauge their stance on issues of lower importance (to you) by their
positions on issues of higher personal importance.

Being pragmatic, it seems to me that there is somewhat of a correlation
between level of disability and political lean.  I would think that most
folks who have disabilities to the extent that they need assistance from the
government to raise their "quality of life", whether it's SSI, ADA issues,
Medicaid, etc.--they are going to want a political majority that will
protect these things.  And why not?  People in a "representative democracy"
will vote for issues that aid them directly and for the party that supports
those issues.  I am fortunate enough not to need any assistance (yet), so
those issues, on a personal level, are lower on my priority list--that's
just the way it works.

What bothers me is when people support the "party" and the party's candidate
as some sort of knee-jerk reaction.  For example, I have many relatives that
moved north to the "rust belt" during and after WW2 to work in the defense
and auto industries.  They all became members of the United Auto Workers
(UAW) union, of course, and found that the Democratic Party supported their
personal interests.  Therefore, they (and the rest of the regional
population) voted straight-ticket Democrat for decades.  The problem is that
the American auto industry, and its high hourly wage for unskilled labor, is
almost dead.  And it's been dying since the 70s.  No amount of life-support
from either party is going to save it.  But my aunts, uncles and cousins
still pull that Democrat lever because....well, just because.

This floors me, because:

They don't approve of "on-demand" abortion
They "cling to their guns"
They "cling to their religion"
They disapprove of gay unions
...and so on

You get the picture?

Again, I'm trying to be pragmatic here.  Personally, I don't care much at
all for John McCain's domestic politics, though I respect him greatly for
his perseverance while he was imprisoned in Hanoi.  I'll be punching his
ticket on Nov. 4, but I'll be holding my nose while doing it.  He doesn't
really support the domestic issues that are of greatest importance to me,
but he isn't opposed to them AS MUCH as Obama is.

I'm sure Barack Obama is a nice fellow and a wonderful husband and father.
He just happens to feel differently than I do about issues that are
important to me.

Kyle

On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 7:21 PM, Anthony Arnold
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> I like how they always make Todd and Sarah out to be such good parents
> since
> they didn't choose to abort Trig. I don't know how I feel about abortion,
> but that should be the right of the couple (or the woman in some cases) to
> choose and nobody else's. It's amazing how some are going to base their
> vote
> on that.
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony Arnold
> Remote Troubleshooter for PRC
> 1-800-262-1984 ext. 494
> www.anthonyarnold.net
> Proud Member of Speak Share
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Kendall D. Corbett
> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 4:07 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Palin's record on special needs kids is mixed
>
> Interesting article on Palin's actions as Alaska governor. Explains about
> McCain's autism referrences also - Palin has a nephew with autism, as well
> as having Trig, her son, who has Down syndrome.
>
> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hGcOUpWUgbLc_WRhu4sgV69OeCrgD93RRC5G0
>
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