Thanks for the good observations, Steve.

And, what you are saying makes sense, especially in light of what the others 
have said too.

73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: more G5RV stuff


> Tom,
>
> Better read some articles in QST that discuss SWR.  Within limits, as long 
> as
> your rig sees a decent match, you will have no noticeable degradation in 
> signal.
>
> However, I think an external tuner will give you less insertion loss than 
> what
> you'll experience in an internal tuner.
>
> Since the G5RV is by nature a compromise antenna, I'm not surprised that 
> you are
> seeing a higher SWR than you might normally expect.
>
> Steve, K8SP
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 10:05 PM
> Subject: Re: more G5RV stuff
>
>
>    So, John, you're saying that I should feel safe in using the antenna, 
> so
> long as I tune it with the rig's auto-tuner?
>
> What do the others think?
>
> I know the G5RV is a compromise antenna at best, so maybe the 
> high-sounding
> SWR readings aren't a problem, as long at the auto-tuner can still make 
> the
> radio happy. Am I correct here?
>
> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:45 PM
> Subject: Re: more G5RV stuff
>
>
>> Mine isn't much better, I'd say that's pretty typical.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "T Behler" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2007 9:09 PM
>> Subject: more G5RV stuff
>>
>>
>>> Hi, all.
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what an acceptable SWR picture would be for a
>>> 102-foot
>>> G5RV antenna?
>>>
>>> I re-oriented my G5RV antenna today, by making the ladder-line run 
>>> pretty
>>> much vertically from the antenna feed-point at the top of my 35-foot
>>> tower,
>>> to the coax that then goes into my shack from the base of the tower.  I
>>> checked the connections between the ladder-line and the coax feedline,
>>> and
>>> they still seem to be good.
>>>
>>> My SWR's are a bit better, and the auto-tuners on both my IC746 and
>>> Kenwood
>>> TS480 now tune the antenna on 40 meters (which I couldn't say before),
>>> but
>>> the SWR's still seem quite high to me.
>>>
>>> On 40 meters, I get an SWR anywhere from about 5 to 1 down to about 4 to
>>> 1.
>>>
>>> The antenna has its best SWR readings on 20 meters, which you'd expect,
>>> but
>>> even here, I can't get the SWR to go much below about 1.8 to 1 in the
>>> center
>>> of the band.
>>>
>>> Again, at least now, the auto-tuners in both of my HF rigs will tune the
>>> antenna, but I'm wondering whether it's even safe or wise to use the
>>> antenna
>>> under these conditions.
>>>
>>> 73 from Tom Behler:  KB8TYJ
>>>
>>
>>
>
>