I had never used the adjustable mic gain, but for what you pay for it, it's
a great rig.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: ReModern Radios and Accessibility
> that 1802 sounds like a cool little radio...a bunch of guys around here
> use
> them in the mobile and they seem to work excellent...I especially like the
> adjustable mike gain feature.
> 73
> Colin, V A6BKX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Schulte" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:26 PM
> Subject: Re: ReModern Radios and Accessibility
>
>
>> I agree with you Colin, I had a yaesu ft2800m, and just recently gave a
>> 1802m to a blind ham in Il. He has the manual in pdf format, and since I
>> had used the radio before, I was more then willing to help him with
>> things
>> that he wasn't familiar with.
>>
>> I also really don't see what's wrong with using a radio attached to a
>> computer, I mean let's think about this, if you're in your shack, more
> then
>> likely, you're going to have a computer there anyway, so why not use what
>> you can with what you have.
>>
>> Now I have been one of those that has shouted quite loudly about Icom not
>> having the accessibility that they should, and I still maintain that
>> something better can be done by a majority of radio manufacturers, but
> what
>> I have done is downloaded the manual on a radio if it's available before
>> purchasing it, and if I read it and see that it can be worked out, then I
>> usually don't have a problem buying it. How many people here have hts
>> and
>> use them quite a bit? Now out of that number, how many have "accessible"
>> hts? Other then the puxing, there's nothing with a voice chip in it in
>> an
>> ht, but we all use them. So, let's really consider how we say things
>> sometimes before we make blanket statements.
>> Chris, w8cjs
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Colin McDonald" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 5:32 PM
>> Subject: Re: ReModern Radios and Accessibility
>>
>>
>> > well, I thought the ft101E was one of the most accessible radios, with
> the
>> > acception that you had no voice readout of frequency and S meter, but a
>> > good
>> > ear will tell you what an approximate signal is, and if you use the
> method
>> > of listening for the sqwak every 100KC, you could easily tune and get
>> > an
>> > approximate idea of where you were on any given band.
>> > Most of the older rigs were like that, many of them Yaesu's.
>> > Most of the modern Yaesu's can be used by a blind person just
>> > fine....so
>> > saying none of them are at all accessible is not correct.
>> > I have an FT2800M downstairs that I use on a daily basis and it works
> and
>> > functions just perfectly. I have the manual in PDF format and when i
> want
>> > to make a menu change i simply look in the manual, count clicks and
> button
>> > presses, and away I go.
>> > If i get stuck, a simple partial reset to get menus back to default
> starts
>> > me out fresh again.
>> > It has direct frequency entry on the mike and one touch hot keys for
>> > any
>> > number of functions.
>> > Now tell me that most of yaesu's radios don't have all of these
>> > features
>> > and
>> > more.
>> > You guys wouldn't know because you hear yaesu and automatically discard
>> > anything about them instead of trying some and finding out that they
>> > can
>> > actually be made to work. Are they accessible as they could be, of
> course
>> > not, but most things in this sighted world aren't as accessible as we
>> > would
>> > like or as they could be, and we get over it and find ways of getting
>> > around
>> > them.
>> > Sell phones only recently began to have the capability of screen
> readers,
>> > yet it certainly didn't stop blind folks from having and using sell
> phones
>> > as best they could....but as soon as something accessible comes out,
>> > all
>> > of
>> > a sudden any phone that can't support a screen reader becomes
> unaccessible
>> > and unusable by blind people...similar situation with amateur radios I
>> > think.
>> > should we purposely use less accessible radios? naturally not. we go
>> > for
>> > the
>> > most accessible as we should. but saying that perfectly accessible,
> though
>> > not as accessible as other radios, are unaccessible is bordering on
>> > ignorance and a lack of desire to enhance ones world by finding ways
>> > around
>> > lesser accessibility.
>> >
>> > 73
>> > Colin, V A6BKX
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
>> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 12:02 PM
>> > Subject: Re: ReModern Radios and Accessibility
>> >
>> >
>> >> Hi Eric;
>> >>
>> >> I wouldn't even consider Yaesu.
>> >>
>> >> There radios are not accessible and they have no intentions of making
>> >> them
>> >> accessible.
>> >>
>> >> 73 De Anthony W2AJV
>> >> [log in to unmask]
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>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Eric Clegg" <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2007 1:37 PM
>> >> Subject: ReModern Radios and Accessibility
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Hello listers,
>> >> > It seems that the more modern the rigs get the less accessible they
>> >> > get.
>> >> >
>> >> > For instance the little Yaesu ft817nd has to be accessorized with
>> >> > one
>> >> > of
>> >> > two
>> >> > keypads to make it workable. You still would have to get many of the
>> > fine
>> >> > options from w4rt to turn it into a real radio such as the two board
>> >> > filters, a better battery pack and a host of other accessories.
>> >> >
>> >> > Also if you use the keypad fromJohn Hansen or Radio Mate from BHI of
>> >> > England
>> >> > you can't use the accessory jack on the back.
>> >> >
>> >> > I understand that the box for the k2 that reads out in CW is pretty
>> >> > complete
>> >> > in the information it has to give.
>> >> >
>> >> > With respect to the Elecraft k3 now is the time to urge the
>> >> > manufacturer
>> >> > to
>> >> > make it accessible while it is the development stages. Not when
> they've
>> >> > shipped a thousand of them.
>> >> >
>> >> > Their comments about a small market is just junk.
>> >> >
>> >> > As a blind person I'd be willing to pay at least $300 additional if
> the
>> >> > rig
>> >> > could be made completely accessible.
>> >> >
>> >> > If I were to get a rig right now I'd probably get a Kenwood TS480SAT
>> > which
>> >> > is quite accessible out of the box.
>> >> >
>> >> > Or a Ten-Tec Argonaut V which I would propose to control with a
>> >> > computer
>> >> > program such as the n4PY program.
>> >> >
>> >> > For my needs right now I only require 20 watts or so and easily turn
>> > down
>> >> > the power on a Kenwood.
>> >> >
>> >> > Have a happy Thanksgiving everyone.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best 73's,
>> >> >
>> >> > Eric
>> >> > KU3I
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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