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Lou Kline <[log in to unmask]>
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For blind ham radio operators <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:05:44 -0400
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Hi.

The primary issue that I have with these laws is that radio operation in 
mobile vehicles wasn't a major problem until cellular telephones came 
along.  I submit that there is a BIG difference between a mobile radio and 
something that you have to hold up to your ear and strain to understand the 
distorted digitized speech of a cellular telephone.  I think law makers are 
a bit too lazy to step back and look at all of the issues surrounding 
this.  It seems to me that operating a motor vehicle and doing things that 
require a lot of manual dexterity like loading CDs into a CD player, or 
text messaging are really bad ideas.  And using devices that require you to 
glance at them while driving are bad.

I don't really think operating mobile radio necessarily equates to these 
things.  However, if the criteria that you want to use is to limit mobile 
transmissions to emergency transmissions, then that should be the 
exemption.  If you are pulled over, you should be prepared to demonstrate 
that an emergency existed at the time.  Cell phone logs could show they 
were calling 911, radio operators should be prepared to disclose who they 
were talking to and the nature of the call.

I am not advocating such a drastic measure, but if we are going to live in 
the "government save us from everything except the government" world, that 
would be the fair way to do it.

I think it would be a refreshing change for New Jersey to enforce the laws 
they already have before they start churning out new ones.  Start by making 
your political officials wear their seat belts!

73, de Lou K2LKK



At 12:40 AM 7/15/2007 -0400, you wrote:
>Anthony,
>
>Frankly, I'm not sure we should have won that one.  Most of the mobile
>operation I've heard doesn't even come close to emergency communication, and
>while we may not be quite as bad as the cell phone users cruising along
>while talking, I can't help wondering how attentive anyone using a radio is
>on their driving.
>
>As an interesting side issue, does the new law prohibit police and fire
>fighters from using their radios while driving?  Certainly they have more
>need for their radios than do we hams.
>
>Steve
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 20:12
>Subject: Fw: RADIO LAW: HAMS WIN MOBILE IN MOTION EXEMPTION IN NEW JERSEY
>
>
> > Hi Everyone;
> >
> > In this state, where they make laws so that they may pass laws, we as =
> > ham radio operators finally won one.
> >
> > If you do not live in NJ. you can use this law to defeat other laws.
> >
> > Sometimes our government really works.
> >
> > 73 De Anthony W2AJV
> > [log in to unmask]
> > ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: DON=20
> > To: Recipient list suppressed:=20
> > Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 5:41 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: RADIO LAW: HAMS WIN MOBILE IN MOTION EXEMPTION IN NEW =
> > JERSEY
> >
> >
> >
> >  From: [log in to unmask]
> >  =20
> >
> >  Hi Don,
> >  Could you forward this to the club members?=20
> >  Thanks,
> >  Denise KB3ANO
> >
> >  =20
> >  =20
> >  =20
> >  Subject: RADIO LAW: HAMS WIN MOBILE IN MOTION EXEMPTION IN NEW JERSEY
> >
> >  =20
> >  RADIO LAW:  HAMS WIN MOBILE IN MOTION EXEMPTION IN NEW JERSEY
> >
> >  Amateur Radio has won an important exemption in New Jersey.  One that =
> > should keep the states hams running mobile for a long time. =20
> >
> >
> >
> >    New Jersey Assembly Bill A 4146 and Senate Bill S 1099/2764 were =
> > introduced in the New Jersey legislature to restrict cell phone use and =
> > text messaging while driving.  The twin measures were passed on June =
> > 21st   and await the governor's signature.
> >
> >
> >    As originally introduced, the bills would have prohibited the use of =
> > any and all electronic communications devices for talking, listening or =
> > text messaging while driving.  This could have meant that New Jersey =
> > hams would have effectively been banned from operating while mobile in =
> > motion.=20
> >
> >
> >    But that won't be the case.  This is because the combined measure as =
> > passed includes a sentence that makes Amateur Radio the only service =
> > exempt from the all inclusive ban.  That hard fought for exemption reads =
> > -- and we quote:  "For the purposes of this section an 'electronic =
> > communication device' shall not include an Amateur Radio".
> >
> >
> >    Talk about getting a broadly worded exemption that covers every =
> > aspect of Amateur Service communications.  More important it means that =
> > use Amateur Radio while driving will continue to be permitted in New =
> > Jersey.  The only caveat is that it is done safely and the ham operator =
> > is not engaging in inattentive driving.
> >
> >
> >    The new law goes into effect four months after the governor signs =
> > it.  From that point on, hams are advised to keep a copy of the measure =
> > and their Amateur Radio license in your glove compartment if you drive =
> > in the Garden State.
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------=
> > -----
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Louis Kim Kline
A.R.S. K2LKK
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