Hi Anthony,

I had my shack in the uncivilized basement for years, and I like it up here 
on the second floor, away from the rest of the house, and right near my 
office.

As I recall, there was nothing in the specs for my antenna about critical 
lengths for ground wires, so I think I'll try using a coax and coupling 
capacitors as a lead between the station ground and the earth.  I doubt it 
will solve my RFI problems, but it may make the antenna play a little 
better.

Steve

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 17:20
Subject: Re: RFI problem.


> Hi Steve;
>
> You need to re-configure the length and the possession of the ground wire.
>
> Also, see what kind of ground wire the antenna calls for and re-examine 
> the
> length.
>
> They should have something about it in the specs.
>
> And, if your shack is on the second floor, maybe you could re-locate it on
> the first floor or better yet in the basement.
>
> This is my opinion and I found that this is what worked for me.
>
> 73 De Anthony W2AJV
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>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Dresser" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2007 11:29 AM
> Subject: Re: [BLIND-HAMS] RFI problem.
>
>
>> Anthony,
>>
>> I'm sure that's possible, but I trust an earth ground more than I trust
>> grounding to a cold water pipe.  How can I find out, and how do I get rid
>> of a ground loop if there is one?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Anthony Vece" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 22:27
>> Subject: Re: RFI problem.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Steve;
>>>
>>> You may have inadvertently created a grounding loop.
>>>
>>> 73 De Anthony W2AJV
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>>> ECHOLINK NODE NUMBER: 74389
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>  From: Steve Dresser=20
>>>  To: [log in to unmask]
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 10:13 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: [BLIND-HAMS] RFI problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>  John,
>>>
>>>  You make a good point that a cold water ground isn't necessarily a =
>>> real=20
>>>  ground.  On the other hand, I use three grounding rods, and I still =
>>> have the=20
>>>  problem.
>>>
>>>  Steve
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>  From: "John Miller" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:40
>>>  Subject: Re: RFI problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>  > From my experience, some computer speakers, you're not going to fix =
>>> it.=20
>>>  > The
>>>  > amplification in those is so cheap and garbage and unfiltered or =
>>> anything,
>>>  > it's just something you'll have to deal with more than likely. =
>>> Grounding=20
>>>  > to
>>>  > a cold water pipe may not help either though as most often if you do 
>>> =
>>> it
>>>  > after the meter, supposedly the meter can isolate you from that =
>>> actually
>>>  > grounding though I don't always trust that, but worse than that, a =
>>> lot of
>>>  > times either the electrical can be grounded there which should make =
>>> RFI
>>>  > issues worse and when I was new and starting out, my water pipes =
>>> acted as
>>>  > part of the antenna when I did that. It never showed up on the SWR =
>>> or
>>>  > anything, but it caused a lot more RFI than it was supposed to fix =
>>> and my
>>>  > electrical is grounded separate from the water pipe because I have a 
>>> =
>>> well
>>>  > and most of the line from the well to the tank in the cellar is PVC =
>>> anyway
>>>  > though I didn't know that at the time.
>>>  > Short version is though, half the hams I know, myself included go =
>>> through
>>>  > computer speakers in some way, shape or form and there's really =
>>> nothing=20
>>>  > most
>>>  > of us can do about it, a lot of us around here have tried everything 
>>> =
>>> there
>>>  > is to tru and nothing helped short of just turning them off and =
>>> using a=20
>>>  > set
>>>  > of headphones in my case. The sighted hams just shut them off and =
>>> leave it
>>>  > that way.
>>>  > ----- Original Message -----=20
>>>  > From: "Richard French" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  > To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:26 AM
>>>  > Subject: RFI problem.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >> Hi list.
>>>  >> I grounded all my equipment to a cold water pipe, but I still come =
>>> across
>>>  >> my
>>>  >> computer speakers.
>>>  >> It's the only thing in the house I ever had RFI problems with.
>>>  >> Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>>>  >> Thanks in advance, and 73.
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>