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Anthony Vece <[log in to unmask]>
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Our local repeater in my area gives everything including the pl tone.

73 De Anthony W2AJV
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeff Kenyon 
  To: [log in to unmask] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [BLIND-HAMS] Handihams, was: RE: exam


  Hi, I know of a repeater around me in Canada that has great coverage, and
  many relay stations, and some of which use different PLs but generally I
  can get in there with no PL.  Across the lake from me in Ontario, Canada
  in the Winsor area a majority of repeaters don't use any form of CTCSS.
  One thing that not many repeaters ahve here are phone patch capabilities,
  and those that do it is never used.  With those repeaters that opt to use
  PL tones though if you listen very carefully you can hear a distinct hum,
  and the higher PL tones are easy to hear.
  As for repeaters muting out though there is other information you
  may get as a message and you could miss that as well.  I know of some
  repeaters that not only give the ID but other information on things like
  nets and what do do for auto patch use and things like that.





  On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, John Miller wrote:

  > Also, when they're setup that way you often don't hear the ID but if the
  > repeater's on echolink or IRLP it's great to be set that way I guess. He put
  > both on that repeater more to experiment, he wanted to see what the
  > difference was, like if DPL needed a stronger signal than the standard PL
  > tone and stuff and for those that have the DPL, it really picks up no
  > interference at all so those that have it use it but they left the PL on it
  > for those that don't. I don't have DPL here in the house right now in fact.
  > He mostly did it to play around, no real reason.
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Jeff Kenyon" <[log in to unmask]>
  > To: <[log in to unmask]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:30 PM
  > Subject: Re: Handihams, was: RE: exam
  >
  >
  > > Oh, well there is not many then.  What is the reason for doing both?  I
  > > would think it would be one or the other, and PL seems to be more popular
  > > then DPL. I ahve repeaters around here that not only use a PL, but when
  > > you are listening you don't hear the repeater's hang time, and this is if
  > > you have your radio set to only  unmute when the PL comes on.  I know what
  > > causes this, but in those cases I have my HT set up where you just send
  > > out the PL when you key up.  That never made much sense to me to have the
  > > repeater set up to where you have it set up to mute right after unkeying
  > > because if you are the one transmitting you will only know you've made the
  > > repeater if you press MON.
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, John Miller wrote:
  > >
  > >> We have 1, soon to be 2 repeaters around here that require them, and 1
  > >> more
  > >> that you can either use that or a regular PL tone. He was playing around
  > >> and
  > >> decided to allow both. He says if he does go DPL only it will probably be
  > >> around 2009 or later.
  > >> ----- Original Message -----
  > >> From: "Jeff Kenyon" <[log in to unmask]>
  > >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
  > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 6:05 PM
  > >> Subject: Re: Handihams, was: RE: exam
  > >>
  > >>
  > >> > As for DPL useaage, I know that many radios have it, but is there
  > >> > anyone
  > >> > on here who knows of repeaters for hams that use them?  I haven't seen
  > >> > anything for ham that uses a DPL, but lot of commercial stuff does.
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> >
  > >> > On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Buddy Brannan wrote:
  > >> >
  > >> >> Well, it depends, really. If the output's above 445 MHz, the offset
  > >> >> has to be negative (else it's out of band). If below 445 MHz, the
  > >> >> offset is positive. Most places I've been have a plus offset, although
  > >> >> I've seen some places put the output up and the input down...so...it
  > >> >> depends, I guess, but it's logical, more or less. Anyway; you'll find
  > >> >> all the repeaters between 440 and 450.
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