Brother Habib,
Thanks.
As I mentioned, I have no problem with the choice of Makkah as the point of
reference for the moon sightings. Infact, I think that it is something
befitting that should have been done long ago because it is a point of reference for
the Ummah.
The slaughtering en masse also makes sense because the pronouncement of
Allah's (SWT) name is what matters there so no major departures from the sunnah.
Loud speakers make sense as aids to better conveyance of what is being said.
Therefore, opposition to these above mentioned items is a bit fanatical.
However, when it comes to the actual sighting of the moon with the naked
eye, that is the sunnah of the Prophet and even the Qu'ran mentions that.
Deciding to depend on mathematical and astronomical calculations alone without
seeing the actual moon crescent is another matter altogether. Innovation I say.
We already know that in the lunar calendar we follow in Islam, some months
are 30 days and some are 29, and the Prophet told us that during his time.
During Ramadan, actually sighting the moon is what determines if we fast 29 days
or 30 days.
I personally think that it is a dangerous departure.
Instead, what needed to be done was to have the Ummah World-wide defer to
the Makkans whenever they inform us that the moon has been sighted over there
with the naked eye and go with that as opposed to going with calculations.
I remember that during the time that the late Serigne Modou Lamin Bah was
imam of Banjul, if the moon was sighted in Makkah, he would make the decision to
go along with that schedule.
May Allah guide the Ummah to the straight path and protect us from Bi'da.
May He inspire and help us to keep our faith pure.
Please remember us, the rest of our compatriots and the Ummah in your
prayers.
wassalaam,
Jabou
In a message dated 9/11/2007 10:46:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
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Balal na la Ahha
yes indeed sister jabou
for several months since jan 2007 all the muslim scholars that are
astronomers and mathematicians met with some religious scholars in europe , south asia
and in the usa plus experts from Africa ( capetown and cairo) to finalize
this method
the key is very simple and strategic one location was selected and which
city better than mekkah
so when the new moon is born ( the know the exact time to the seconds ) in
mekkah area alone before sunset then we start the new lunar month the
following day but when the new moon is born after sunset then the next day is the
first day- reasoning is that since each month is exactly 29.5 (and half day)
so it means some months will be 30 days and some 29 only
there is no half day - so it makes sense and yes it has been accepted by
the scholars
remember when the microphone or loud speakers fist came about abot 60 years
ago many indo pak muslims also refused to use them because it was not used in
the time of the prophet (pbuh) and not sunnah
well with technonogy and science advances Imams now use these loudspeakers
to give khutbas to big crowds of worshippers so all can hear him deliver
his speech. and there is no debate on this matter any more with the cell phones
and land lines -telephones have sms /ims , cameras and even videos now to
almost mini computers
we have the same issues with mechanical slaughter of chickens versus hand
slaughter - now machine slaughtered chickens are allowed as long as they are
supervised properly to avoid mistakes and the tasmiah is said by the muslim
supervisors during the process
a classic example used was that during the prophets time people performed
pilgrimage to mekkah on horses and camels now we us airoplanes and cars and
boats.
best regards to y'all in the south and have a blessed month of Ramadan
Hajj Habib
> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:35:50 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re:
first ramadam to be on thursday> To: [log in to unmask]> > Habib,> >
Balal na la, balal ma ahhah.> > Astronomical calculations instead of
actually sighting the moon? I have no issues with the rest of the Islamic World
going along with the Makkans sighting of the moon as the start and end of
Ramadan, but is the new standard of going with astronomical calculations sunnah?> >
Jabou> > > > -----Original Message-----> From: Habib Ghanim
<[log in to unmask]>> To: [log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 8:21 pm>
Subject: Re: first ramadam to be on thursday> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks sister
Jabou > thank God the whole universe this year starts on the same day ie 13 th
sept and > will celebrate eid on 13 th october 2007> from now on we will all
noy look for the new cresent moon as the new global > standard will use makkah
as the target for the whole world and now based on > astronomical and
mathematical calculations only > we know when eid will fall for 5 years now without
complains ( except the > bangladashis and indo pakistanis) inshallah this is
a good move to unify the > ummah> > balal ma ahhah > may we meet next years
ramadan in good health inshallah> habib Diab ghanim> > > > > Date: Tue, 11
Sep 2007 20:01:34 -0400> From: [log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: > first ramadam to
be on thursday> To: [log in to unmask]> > Ramadaan > Mubarak.> May
Allah (SWT) accept our fasting and forgive us our sins.> > Jabou > Joh> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----> From: SUNTOU TOURAY >
<[log in to unmask]>> To: [log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 > 1:19 pm>
Subject: first ramadam to be on thursday> > > > > > > > > > > the main >
islamic news chanel in U.k announce that ramadan will comence on > thursday the >
13th of september.> i wish every body a blessed ramadan. i am sure baba and
some > sanyang kunda > folks will be happy that we will wait for another day
to start > the fast .not > forgeting the darboe kunda crew .saloum,haruna and
lj darboe > .God bless ,guys.> suntou.> >
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