It seems to me the prohibition in the bible against drunkenness and gluttony 
revolves around the responsibility an individual owes to himself and to 
others.  In America not enough emphasis is placed on individual 
responsibility regarding the use of alcohol and food.  I think the 
temperance movement had a lot to do with the shaping of attitudes toward 
alcohol.  Rather than stressing responsible use of the product, they focused 
on abstinents.  If children learned how to eat and drink responsibly we 
would have fewer obese and alcoholics in our society.  Didn't St. Paul say 
neither should do well in his kingdom.  I thought he lumped them both 
together with the homosexuals and liars and a group of other kinds of 
perversions.  I personally think if one eats or drinks for any other reason 
than to satisfy a natural hunger or thirst one is perverting the original 
intent of the natural use of food or drink.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lelia Struve" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: One of my all time favorites


> Kathy, wow!!! I have to say your maybe the only one who I've found that 
> thinks like I feel. OH and yes definitely, when we went to the dentist 
> what did we do after? Go to Mickey dee's what do we get for Christmas? 
> peanuts, candy chocolate. Easter? a huge chocolate easter bunny. OH yes, 
> food food and bad food at that. I just need to do what Carol does, call on 
> God when I want sugar. Its kind of ironic, my familys love is food, Todd's 
> familys love is alcohol, if ya don't drink your quote unquote different!!! 
> and I don't mean that they Todd's family think you drink to get drunk, its 
> just a given that when your with the family, there's alcohol involved. 
> With my mom there's food. lol!!! Honestly though, my only "battle is with 
> food, alcohol, I've had too many problems as a child with being around 
> alcohol meaning fights just plain stupidity. Todd's family are what I call 
> social drinkers which is fine its there choice but oh how long it has 
> taken for them to finally accept the fact that I don't drink much. So, 
> yes, I'm fighting an uphill battle. But with God all things are posible. I 
> honestly wish sometimes there would be a physical support system. Again 
> thanks so much for sharing your thoughts. I'm always sharing mine with 
> Todd and he listens. smile!!!
>
> hugs
>
> Lelia
>
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