Amen sister.  Preach on.  I think the emphasis should be put on moderation 
in all things rather than choosing one particular thing.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: Boycotts


> Brad,
> Don't forget, Red wine is actually good for the heart, the darker, the 
> better.  That doesn't mean get drunk on it.  Over indulgence  in anything 
> is forbidden.  There's that nasty little sin called gluttony, you know. 
> Unfortunately, most church goers don't think that that relates to food, 
> but I actually heard of some research lately that points out that the 
> evangelical population is the most overweight part of society.  I think 
> that its a little hard to preach against drinking when your gut is hanging 
> over your belt and you've had to have your brothers and sisters pray you 
> through one heart bypass after another because you won't lay off the fatty 
> foods and you won't get exercise.
> Kathy
>
>
>
> At 12:31 AM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
>>I might as well toss in my bit on this one lol. There is nothing 
>>inherently wrong with an alcoholic drink. There is however something 
>>inherently wrong with an over indulgence to it where one is bagged. Now, 
>>I, like Helen have seen my share of alcohol abuse in my family alone and 
>>many of my dad's friends were as well, so I do understand that fear of 
>>drink. However, having an alcoholic beverage does not equate to being 
>>drunk. I think the many severe abuses of it today by folks has got 
>>everyone jacked up to believe alcohol is automatically bad. In fact it 
>>does have medical benefits, again, if not abused. That would include not 
>>drinking constantly even if not bagged, one needs to let wisdom prevail. 
>>If we are talking mind altering or spirit weakening substances we need 
>>then to extend  it to coffee, pain killers, cold medicines and anything 
>>else that causes drowsiness or the opposite. And I understand yes, some 
>>folks here  may not drink coffee either, I am not one of those, I like 
>>bean juice and I'll probably always will. The decaffeinated stuff just 
>>does not taste the same. Anyway. I think we need to keep it in 
>>perspective. Wine, or beer or an alcoholic beverage  doesn't equate being 
>>drunk, abuse of it is. I  analogize it to a gun. A gun isn't inherently 
>>bad, or good. It is neither. It is however an extension of one's heart 
>>that makes it either bad or good. So people are afraid and they opt for 
>>ridding guns, when in fact it is the abusers which ought be dealt with.
>>
>>Cheers, *smile*
>>
>>Brad
>>
>>
>>on 08:03 PM 11/25/2006, John Schwery said:
>>
>>Kathy, I must agree with Helen on this one.  I know the bible doesn't 
>>teach directly against drinking, but it definitely teaches against 
>>drunkenness.  Where does one draw the line?  Myself, I abstain, 
>>completely.  I believe the leadership of the early church either drank 
>>very little or abstained because Paul told timothy to drink a little bit 
>>for his stomachs sake, or medicinal purposes.  We don't need alcohol for 
>>medicine, now.  And, I believe the alcohol content of alcoholic beverages 
>>was far less in beverages then, than what it is, now.  Plus, you have to 
>>realize that part of Helen's disagreement comes from suffering, big time, 
>>from alcohol abuse from those around her, for more years than she cares to 
>>think about.
>>
>>earlier, Helen Wolf, wrote:
>>
>>I strongly disagree with that statement, Kathy.  The main thing wrong with 
>>beer is the alcohol.  Proverbs 25:28  He that hath no rule over his own 
>>spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.   Alcohol 
>>takes control over a man's spirit, so that he does not rule over 
>>it..........but is totally open to Satan, the enemy of his soul, as the 
>>city of ancient times with its walls broken down was open to its enemies.
>>Helen
>>
>>Earlier Kathy wrote:
>>Well, the main thing wrong with beer is the calories.  Kathy
>>
>>
>>
>>At 09:54 AM 11/25/2006, you wrote:
>>If one goes the boycott route, where does one stop?  If I went far enough, 
>>I wouldn't be able to buy groceries because the store sells beer.
>>
>>earlier, Vinny Samarco, wrote:
>>
>>right phil.
>>Vinny
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
>>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>Sent: Friday, November 24, 2006 4:42 PM
>>Subject: Boycotts
>>
>>
>>I doubt that boycotts work all that well anyhow.  Things like that 
>>probably
>>help occasionally but I would bet if you could get a million Christians
>>praying about something every day, we would reap a greater harvest.
>>
>>Phil.
>>
>>
>>
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