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Pat Ferguson <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 13 Dec 2006 11:05:19 -0600
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Phil,

I'm praying for Gretchan and for all your family.

You are loving, no matter what you say. <smile>

I got to call you some time and play something funny for you. I don't 
know if it will offend you, but I don't think it will after reading 
this message. <grin> lol.

Love,
Pat Ferguson

At 07:55 PM 12/12/2006, you wrote:
>I am writing in detail because many of you have been praying for
>our daughter for years.  I just wanted to explain what the latest
>was about Gretchen.  Last Sunday, I believe it was, Gretchen came
>out into my office to tell me something funny that happened at
>work.  She talked for a few minutes and since I have been telling
>her for about four months that I need to speak with her
>concerning, Everett, her oldest son, I took the opportunity.
>Gretchen's boyfriend, with whom she sometimes lives with, if you
>get my drift, is not a Christian nor does he wish to be.  A few
>months ago, he made an appointment to come and see me in my
>office.  He is an x druggy, although he has done drugs with
>Gretchen in the last six months or so more than once so he really
>is still a druggy I guess, and since his parents are very wealthy,
>over his entire life, he has been to all types of counselors,
>psychologists, and psychiatrists.  He is a nice guy but so am I
>and being nice doesn't make you a Christian.  So, after an hour of
>talking, I eventually covered the Gospel in as simple of words as
>possible.  That really turned him off and he couldn't wait to get
>off the topic of God and get out the office door and as far away
>from me as possible.  No, I didn't threaten him or scare him.  In
>fact, what you think about me wouldn't resemble the compassion I
>showed toward this young man.  Besides, I know how to lead people
>to Christ.  Yes, it is sad.  What does Mike, is his name, have to
>do with my talk with Gretchen?  I'm glad you asked.  I started out
>by asking Gretchen if she and Mike planned on getting married.
>There was no definite answer there but when you sleep with
>somebody and hang around them whenever you aren't sleeping or
>working, not to mention talking about them nonstop, then the
>possibility is likely.  Plus, she has hinted around about such
>happening some day anyhow.  A couple of weeks ago, I felt anger in
>my house.  It wasn't a personage, meaning, I didn't sense a
>demonic presence, although some likely believe I find demons
>everywhere all the time, but this feeling, and I know this sounds
>very weird, but this feeling of anger was in the form of rage.
>The anger, and rage, I felt, seemed painted on the walls of my
>house when I focused on it.  I told you it sounded weird.  I
>focused on the anger many times over a couple of days because, as
>I grew up, and I did not understand why this was until recently, I
>had rage buried deep that only surfaced once and awhile.  When it
>did, I threw things, broke things, kicked doors down, yelled so
>loud my voice was hoarse for days, and many other such things.
>Fortunately, it happened rarely.  What did not happen rarely was
>the feeling of rage.  By that I mean, I often found myself doing
>nothing in particular but suddenly had a desire to throw something
>or break something and so on, and for no reason.  I mean, I wasn't
>even angry about anything at that moment of that feeling.  I
>didn't react, of course, unless I was pushed into a corner but
>this feeling of rage had personality.  I did not understand that
>until a little over four years ago.  Now I know what it is and
>what it was.  So, for a couple of days, I kept feeling this anger,
>as I mentioned, but there was no personality feeling associated
>with it.  How do I know?  Because each time I felt the anger, I
>prayed and tried to locate where it might be coming from.  I also
>quickly examined my own feelings and there was no desire to throw
>anything, break anything, nor any feeling of being out of control.
>This, in itself, surprised me.  I had noticed for well over two
>years that fear itself no longer surfaced but now that I sensed
>the anger, in the air sort of speak, I thought it quite unusual
>that the accompanying presence, like something was there, didn't
>exist.  One day, Sandy got a new cell phone in the mail.  She had
>asked little Everett to show her a little about the phone.  During
>the process, Everett went ape, as we say, and his anger overflowed
>almost out of control.  The instant it happened, I spiritually saw
>where the anger was.  Later, his anger occurred a second time and
>this is why I took the opportunity to talk with Gretchen even
>though she wasn't planning on it.  I made it perfectly clear that
>I had recently been healed from the origin of my own rage by the
>Lord not only showing me the first time I displayed the anger and
>rage at about 10 years of age, but as I prayed, the Lord
>immediately showed me where the anger came from.  You will find it
>interesting, likely, that the rage I once had did not come from
>anyone in my family nor did it comes from my ancestors, if you
>are one who believes in generational curses.  In my talk with
>Gretchen, I gave her no choices and explained that what Everett
>was experiencing was largely the fact he had no father.  I know
>that feeling incredibly well since my dad died when I was 11 years
>old.  My grandson, on the other hand, has a father whom no one has
>seen in years but still always spends more time in jail than any
>place else.  Yet, little guys still want to see their real dad.
>Even adult men often want to meat their dad.  Often such meetings
>make things worse for them instead of better.  I told her I have
>been waiting for a long time for her to take responsibility for
>the sin she is living in, which I repeated three different times
>and pointed out what God calls sleeping with someone else, not to
>mention hanging around with a man who is not born again and
>claiming him as her boyfriend, and I also made it clear that she,
>and absolutely no one else, was solely responsible for the
>behavior of her son.  I told her that she would either begin
>taking responsibility as his mother or she wouldn't like the
>decision I would have to make.  She tried to say she had already
>lost her son but I told her I was sick of hearing that half ass
>excuse.  By the way, sinners, living in sin, sometimes need to be
>spoken to in the language which they understand and not in the
>nice Christian language we all believe in is Godly.  You want to
>hear force?  Let God speak to you just once in judgment and
>you'll find out what real life is all about.  Furthermore, my
>terminology came from the Bible and I can prove it.  Nothing like
>being biblical.  If she wanted to marry an unsaved man, I told her
>that was fine, but under no circumstances would she do that until
>after her boys were raised.  Finally, Gretchen asked if she could
>take Everett with her to a nearby Charismatic church.  This church
>I know about, somewhat, and they have a good size youth group.
>Everett loves such church activities.  I told her that she could
>indeed start going to church there but first of all, her so called
>boyfriend was in no way allowed to come when Everett was there.
>I also said that she had to make a decision about her so called
>relationship with her boyfriend or I would make it for her.
>Secondly, I told her that I would be watching both her attitude,
>and Everett's very closely.  If I saw no changes, the game was
>over because I told her I refused to play any longer.  Children's
>lives are at stake and I'm not standing before God and trying to
>make up excuses why I didn't fulfill my part as, unfortunately,
>the patriarch sort of speak, of the Scovell family.  By the way,
>this is something the Lord showed me a few years ago, that is, my
>spiritual responsibility as the head of my home.  This home
>includes everybody that is my immediate descendant.  I personally
>believe, since the Lord showed me this, the authority I have in
>Christ Jesus shifted gears into areas I never dreamed possible.  I
>have, furthermore, spoken with my oldest son in Florida and
>explained this to him.  I informed him, like it or not, he was my
>first born son and if anything happens to me, it passes on to him
>to lead the Scovell family.  No, I'm not planning on dying but
>this is a Biblical principle I am absolutely sold on so believe
>what you will about it.  And some of you want to know why I'm such
>a mean person.  By the way, and along these lines, Gretchen's
>boyfriend has told her that at her, almost 28 years of age, that I
>have no right to be telling her what to do.  Fine.  Believe what
>you want but that won't keep me from standing my ground.  You
>think I'm kidding.  Listen, several years ago, when my dumb ass
>step father literally was physically abusing my 73 year old
>mother, I called him up on the phone and left him a voice mail and
>told him in no uncertain terms what he could expect if my mother
>ever called me again and told me what he had done to her.
>furthermore, I immediately called his pastor, the largest church
>in Denver, and told him what my step dad had not only done but
>what would happen if it ever happened again.  I think an over
>weight blind man beating up a 70 year old man is a fair enough
>match.  go to jail?  It would have been an honor for my mom's
>sake.  By the way, the old fart never laid a hand on mom again
>either and by the way, he did this a few weeks after her first
>stroke.  Talk about somebody with rage, that was my step dad.
>Now, back to what I was saying.  Gretchen has said she now will
>spend more time with Everett than she had been, she went every
>Sunday afternoon to spend with her boyfriend and left her son
>here, and she said she would furthermore really help him in the
>youth group at church.  So, there is a whole lot more than you
>ever wanted to know.  You may not like me personally, nor my
>attitude, but some day you will say, That Phil Scovell wasn't half
>bad, you know?
>
>Phil.

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